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Old 02-15-2008, 06:46 AM
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I dunno. People have been searching for the fountain of youth for god knows how long. Roids and HGH are about as close as we've come that I know of. I mean look at the extra years of career Bonds and Clemens (if it's true) got from it.

I started doing a type of Korean Chi Gong yoga when I was 40 and started playing basketball like I hadn't played it in years. God, it felt good.

Not saying it's right, just that I sympathize with them.
Sure if you take them to improve your quality of life,,, fine. When you are taking them secretly to get an unfair advantage over your competitors, and allows you to set marks and records that you never would have achieved without them,,,, I say, throw the bums out, for good.

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How did it get to be a political thingie, with Repos lining-up on one side and Demos on the other. It was freaking weird to watch.

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I was amazed that even this broke down along party lines. Clemens is a fairly active Republican and donor, you'd like to think there'd be more transparency.

Shays, Issa and Burton (the only ones I've heard numerous comments from) certainly seemed to have made their mind up enough that they were only interested in painting McNamee as a liar and drug pusher, instead of trying to find out what he knew and when. The thought that a "friend" might lie to protect another "friend" isn't inconceivable. And the fact that when push come to shove that "friend" may come out with a different story when questioned under oath, threatened with a perjury charge and jail time to protect his own a$$ doesn't seem hard to fathom.

Knoblach, Pettitte and the nanny have corroborated McNamee's story but that all seemed to have been lost on the Republican Reps.

It was the first time in my politically-aware lifetime that I saw Waxman as the voice of reason.
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:53 AM
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Ah, I didn't know Clemens was into politics. Your explanation makes all of the players fall into place.

Waxman suffers the Limbaugh syndrome -- every scandal is equal to every rumor is equal to every malfeasance is equal to every peccadillo is equal to every criminal act -- if committed by the other side. Burton is the same deal. I hate to hear them.

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Old 02-15-2008, 09:24 AM
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If not this, they'd be messin' around screwing something that really matters . . .


From today's WSJ
San Francisco's Democrat
February 15, 2008; Page A14

Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats appear to have decided that November's election is a distraction from their effort to simply pull the plug on a sitting President. How else to explain what is happening in the House this week?

Democrats voted yesterday, for the first time in decades, to hold two White House officials in contempt of Congress. Hours later it emerged that Ms. Pelosi has apparently decided not to vote on the warrantless wiretap bill passed by the Senate days ago. This means that the Protect America Act -- which conferred Congressional support to wiretapping suspected al Qaeda terrorists -- will expire at midnight today.


We admit to wondering earlier this week whether Congress's interrogating Roger Clemens was the best use of the Representatives' time. On the evidence, the country will be safer if the House takes up tilting at windmills.
Speaker Pelosi says that letting the Protect America Act evaporate is no big deal. But the Director of National Intelligence told Congress last summer that the Administration lost two-thirds of its terrorist-surveillance capacity after it agreed to go to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and a judge there required a finding of probable cause to listen in on terrorists abroad.

There are in fact enough Blue Dog Democratic votes in the House to pass the Senate bill, which had Democratic support there as well. But Ms. Pelosi instructed House Intelligence Committee Chairman Sylvester Reyes to begin negotiations with the Senate on a compromise bill. This effectively tosses the entire surveillance program into a kind of limbo, with all players uncertain about its practical authority.

This was of a piece with the remarkable contempt vote against White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former Counsel Harriet Miers, which passed 223 to 32, as Minority Leader John Boehner led the Republican delegation out of the chamber. The pretext for this historic moment? The fight over the fired U.S. Attorneys. Remember that?

This is the scandal that vanished because there was nothing to it. U.S. Attorneys are political appointees who serve at the pleasure of the President; he can fire any -- or even all -- of them if he sees fit. This nonscandal seemed to fade into the mists after it hastened the departure of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. Ms. Pelosi asserts that this virtually never-used contempt vote is necessary to ensure "oversight" of the executive.

Mr. Bolten and Ms. Miers, however, refused under orders from the President and on the advice of the Solicitor General, on the principle that the President's advisers should be free to give advice to the President without being called before Congress to explain themselves. Democratic Presidents to the horizon have made this claim.

Every time he speaks, Barack Obama promises to overcome "bitter partisanship and petty bickering." Good luck with that. The House Speaker from San Francisco is obviously running her own campaign to gain control of the White House. The needs of the party's Presidential candidates appear to be a distraction from this.
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:58 AM
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and now back to Roger lying like a rug.
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maybe the mods will "ban" Roger. Still makes me sick, just admit it and go on. Noooooooo he had to parade around all week, glad handing and visiting and expects people to believe him.....in the end he's still a great pitcher. Where the heck is David Wells?
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:28 PM
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maybe the mods will "ban" Roger. Still makes me sick, just admit it and go on. Noooooooo he had to parade around all week, glad handing and visiting and expects people to believe him.....in the end he's still a great pitcher. Where the heck is David Wells?
His advisor as that reknown political operative, Mr Dover, whose previous clients include Senator Craig (R-ID).
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Where the heck is David Wells?
At age 45, the free agent formerly with the Padres is looking for team willing to take a risk.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:03 PM
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At age 45, the free agent formerly with the Padres is looking for team willing to take a risk.
Yankees?
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Cashman will bring back "Boomer" only if Brian really wants a career change. The message for the Yankees from last year is pretty clear, we need younger players, particularly starters than can go 5 or more innings. Wells is well past his prime as a middle reliever or closer.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:25 PM
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Pumped up along the way eh?

Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio???...

or Rick Monday...???

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Old 02-15-2008, 03:29 PM
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Cashman will bring back "Boomer" only if Brian really wants a career change. The message for the Yankees from last year is pretty clear, we need younger players, particularly starters than can go 5 or more innings. Wells is well past his prime as a middle reliever or closer.
but he sure had a *****in' change-up.
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Aww man, thanks for the flashbacks Dynalow. I have the complete set of topps that year...(1984) - I wonder how much that card will devalue now?

Sorry Mistress - I concur, I think Boomer's boomed out. C'mon, you don't like Chien Ming Wang in pressure situations?
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but he sure had a *****in' change-up.
And a fine beer and pizza belly admired by those of us who can appreciate such a thing.

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