WTF is wrong with people? Why can't these losers just take a walk in the woods and put the barrel in their mouths and do the rest of us a favor? I don't believe in a literal hell however I do hope there is one for these f#%$ing morons.

RT

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It pisses me off too. This crap happens all the time in this country. I think it's the equivalent of suicide bombing. Death does not deter these people. The only real solution is to ban guns nationwide with draconian enforcement and anyone found to possess a gun is instantly tortured to death by the authorities. The next best solution is to require each and every person over the age of 12 of clean background to own a gun and be proficient at using it and to carry it at all times, otherwise he or she will be subject to instant torture to death by the authorities. This will not completely deter the "suicide bombers" but it might help minimize the casualties during shootouts like this. But guess what, nothing like this will ever happen and this crap will continue as long as we have these rotten minds in our society. Anyone else have another solution?

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Unfortunately I think you are correct. The only stopgap I can see that MAY help is to simply allow people with CCW permits to carry on campuses. There is resistance to this however if a person can legally carry concealed in that state, they have passed all the requirements which are usually training, a background check, documenting, etc. then why not? There is a CHANCE, admittedly a small one, that a person in that classroom may have ended this pretty quickly. Whackjobs like this may not consider that their victims may be armed however when they may find it difficult to continue if the victims are returning fire. Other than that, I don't have any solutions. RT

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There is nothing that can be done to prevent these things from happening. We have 300+ million people in this country and bad ***** is gonna happen at times. It might happen at school, a mall, on main street, at home, or wherever.

Ban guns? It's to late for that. Ten's of millions in of guns in every corner of this country. If a person wants to get one bad enough, they will. If not a gun then something equally effective can be substituted.

Want to turn this country into a police state and search everyone everywhere they go? No me, I'd rather have a couple hundred people a year get massacred by some loony tune than turn this country into a semi-secured prison.

It's a sad situation when bad things happen, but bad things will always happen no matter what we do. It has always been that way and it always will be that way. Get use to it. The odds of being involved in something like these shootings is millions to one.

When it's your time it's your time, no matter what the means. Some call it Gods will, some call it being at the wrong place at the wrong time. For me, unless it effects me personally, I just basically ignore it and move on.

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It's too scary, too close to home. At first I thought it was Southern Illinois Univ because I only heard a short snippet on the news, then I realized I waswrong , it's bad

I think you guys covered all the points.

The only one that is left out is when these types of crimes are actually thwarted by students on campus or at the work place who retrieved their guns from their vehicles or their person to stop the bad guy, the media does all they can to avoid making it into a pro gun story in most cases.

We definitely need to quit creating and get rid of existing "gun-free" zones. Gun free zones only disarm the law abiding while criminals or mentally defectives ignore the laws. History has shown that the vast majority of random multiple shootings occur in gun free zones where law abiding citizens are not allowed to defend them selves. Criminals and Mental defectives like their victims to be unarmed and defenseless as it allows them more time commit their dastardly deeds. That being said, as a realist, I believe that getting rid of the gun free zones will not stop these things from occurring period, but it may cause enough pause in someone thinking about these types of things from following through with their plans. At the very least, it would allow law abiding citizens, a chance to defend them selves and possibly mitigate the carnage cause by the would-be assailant.

Keep in mind that case law has proven that the police are under no obligation to protect you from harm even if they are in a position to protect you. In reality, when seconds count in a life and death situation, the police are usually minutes away. Our security and protection is our own personal responsibility and we should be afforded every opportunity and tool we can to take on that responsibility.

As a CHL holder, I hold my 2nd Amendments rights very dear and exercise those rights when ever and where ever law allows me to.

Maybe he was Catholic, and figured since he was going to go to hell for killing himself, he might as well make sure he goes to hell (in case you can get out of it), by killing innocent people.

Should his suicide have been stopped? Absolutely!
He should have been executed on live TV as an example to the other a-holes that have such an atrocity in mind.

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Do speeding laws keep people from speeding? Do shoplifting laws stop people from shoplifting? Do fireworks laws stop people from using fireworks? Etc.?

No law is going to stop an insane person from doing something insane.

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So by your logic ALL laws are a waste of time and should therefore be abolished.


The laws, with PUNISHMENT and enforcement of them, help sometimes.

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That comment deserves a sticky, and another Amen.

You're allright man.

As far as the guy who asked "How do you make a dead criminal pay dearly?"

Well, to be respectful to him, I won't even go there.

Put an emergency switch in the classroom that releases disabling gas.

Or faster yet, tazer the whole room.

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This is deeply distrubing and its happening more and more. Unfortuantely I don't think gun control will stop anything. You want a gun your gonna get a gun. DC has a ban on gun ownership, yet they have the highest murder rate by gun shootings in the country so gun control aint the answer.

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These shootings are terrible, but the solutions are not easy "sound-bite" answers. Unfortunaltely, those are the ones that our lawmakers prefer. They play better on TV.

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I just don't get it. What is the point of going out like that? You shot a bunch of innocent people and then yourself? The looney that shot up that mall recently left a note that he wanted to be famous. How does this make him famous? Now hes on a long list of copycats that can't think of a more memorable way to self-expire? There should be a national campaign promoting "just shoot yourself" day. Seriously these losers just need to step into the woods and pull the trigger. Maybe if we had public recognition of their "good deed" and a plaque or monument or something. It'd be a helluva lot better than the other option. RT

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