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Old 03-30-2008, 10:53 PM
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http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/032908-with-vista-breached-linux-unbeaten.html?fsrc=rss-linux-news

The MacBook Air went first; a tiny Fujitsu laptop running Vista was hacked on the last day of the contest; but it was Linux, running on a Sony Vaio, that remained undefeated as conference organizers ended a three-way computer hacking challenge Friday at the CanSecWest conference.

The MacBook feel due to Crapfari hole, the Vista fell due to Adobe Flash hole, good to see no OS vulnerability as such.

Even though I use Windows XP x64 on a need to use basis, its strictly Linux for me and this is one of the reasons why I do so.

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Old 03-30-2008, 11:04 PM
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Apple zealot? No, but I do like a nice Fuji or Granny Smith every once in a while

I'm not really a computer enthusiast. I'm still running WIN98 on a computer I've had since 2000. It's getting to be time to get a new one. My only real beef with Macs is the single mouse button. I like my right clicks.
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:30 AM
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Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 4:14 am


Yesterday’s refresh of the iMac line is interesting, not because of the bump in speed that the refresh itself offers but because of the direction that Apple is going in. Is Apple preparing the way for gaming on the Mac?

Could Apple be preparing the way for Mac gaming?First, let’s look closer at that 3.06GHz processor option for the 24-inch iMac. Some of you might be wondering what that processor is. Well, I can tell you now that it’s not an early incarnation of the Centrino 2 technology as some have suggested. It’s a special run on an existing CPU overclocked to handle the 3.06GHz workload and 1,066MHz. It’s definitely hosted on a Santa Rosa motherboard (the Intel GM965 northbridge and ICH8 southbridge gives that away). Apple’s working the current technology hard to get 3.06GHz out of something designed to give 2.8GHz here. Why?

Then there’s the GPU. This seems to be a stock nVIDIA 8800M GTS (even though Apple calls it an 8800 GS, but then again, Apple called Mobility HD 2600 XT parts HD 2600 Pro). This is a high-end GPU and certainly offers far more power than most Mac users currently need from the iMac.

Putting the overclocked processor and a high-end nVIDIA GPU in a box makes this system look like a gaming system to me. Sure, Apple is constrained by its use of mobile parts in the iMac, but the company does seem intent on squeezing as much power as it can out of the components.

Whether Apple is starting to cater for gamers using Boot Camp, or Apple is preparing the way for Mac OS X-based gaming I’m not sure, but either way it looks to me like Apple is getting into gaming. And why not, it’s a lucrative market!
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:36 AM
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My only real beef with Macs is the single mouse button. I like my right clicks.
Where have you been for the last 10 years? Plug in ANY USB mouse and you have all the buttons you want. The mouse Apple has included with their computers for the last 3 years has 4 buttons and a scroll wheel.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:10 AM
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I guess that's why Apple has so many problems with viruses. I will die clutching my MacBook...and a good Cuban cigar.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:15 AM
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Well Botnst, a while back I got into a back and forth with a couple of Apple Zealots. Their solution to PC ptoblems was "Buy a Mac", and that was it, no further reason, detail etc.
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I've always use DOS or Windows computers. The next one I buy will be a Mac beacuse I'm just not technologically-oriented enough anymore to deal with MS crap.

When I have to spend more time learning how to make the machine work than I do doing the work I bought the machine for in the first place, it's time to change.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:25 AM
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I still don't get the Mac fanaticism. I use a PC and a Mac at work. Both have their issues. Both perform well.

My home PC is a gaming system I built, and I've been running Vista (Ultimate, 32 bit) since it came out. ZERO problems. I've been using the included firewall and Defender (which is an excellent little program, btw) and the free AVG antivirus. Not a single problem yet, no viruses, spyware, etc.

I like how you can configure everything in Vista. Things like Windows Update, where it doesn't force updates on you for things you didn't ask for (unlike Apple's current direction...you will like Safari...you will like Safari...you will...etc.).

Apple's idiotic 'aren't we so clever' TV commercials are realy getting to me. They're stupid and nerdy and more than a little repetitive. Also inaccurate. A recent one spoke about 'how Macs work because they build everything inside the Mac, unlike the poor PC which has parts from everywhere'.

So...how about the nVidia video card? Or the Intel chip? Hmm....

I personally have no real preference between the two but branding PCs as universally useless and Macs as universally trouble-free is a tad untrue, IMHO.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:35 AM
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A recent one spoke about 'how Macs work because they build everything inside the Mac, unlike the poor PC which has parts from everywhere'.

So...how about the nVidia video card? Or the Intel chip? Hmm....
Obviously you miss the entire point. Apple designs all it's computers in-house and writes the software to work for those models. Winblows has to be made to work with a mix-n-match of millions of combinations of components and hardware over 15 years old. Apple knows exactly what hardware will be in their computers so they can focus on optimizing their software to suit it.

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where it doesn't force updates on you for things you didn't ask for (unlike Apple's current direction...you will like Safari...you will like Safari...you will...etc.).
Apple does not force updates and is just as configurable. See attachment. I love how people whine and cry that Apple is "forcing" safari on them when that simply isn't true at all.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:40 AM
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Yeah, MS seems to want to be all things to all people. Apple seems to be more oriented to specific users. I've heard a lot of folks rave about Linux, but they were mostly more computer literate people than me, so I have never tried Linux.

I don't want to have to know how to fix the operating system all the time. I just want to get my work done.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:49 AM
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Obviously you miss the entire point. Apple designs all it's computers in-house and writes the software to work for those models. Winblows has to be made to work with a mix-n-match of millions of combinations of components and hardware over 15 years old. Apple knows exactly what hardware will be in their computers so they can focus on optimizing their software to suit it.
Obviously, I haven't missed anything. They state they make everything in the box. That is untrue. They are using other company's hardware in their computers. This was inevitable as specialist niche companies can do it better than a generalist.

Only difference between a Mac and a PC in this regard is scale.
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I posted the article above because I was interested that the author thinks Apple is making a move on the game industry. This is where MS has had an undeniable and well-deserved dominance. Is there a chance Apple can do something in that realm that will make any inroads into the PC dominance?

What could they possibly offer that might induce (seduce) a gamer from PC to Mac?

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I posted the article above because I was interested that the author thinks Apple is making a move on the game industry. This is where MS has had an undeniable and well-deserved dominance. Is there a chance Apple can do something in that realm that will make any inroads into the PC dominance?

What could they possibly offer that might induce (seduce) a gamer from PC to Mac?

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Old 04-29-2008, 11:57 AM
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I posted the article above because I was interested that the author thinks Apple is making a move on the game industry. This is where MS has had an undeniable and well-deserved dominance. Is there a chance Apple can do something in that realm that will make any inroads into the PC dominance?

What could they possibly offer that might induce (seduce) a gamer from PC to Mac?

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Good question Bot. Although PCs do dominate the home computer gaming industry, I think consoles are spelling the death of home PC gaming, or at least driving it back into a very niche market.

PCs are highly customizable. I tinker with mine every few months, making upgrades here and there. This is both a benefit and a drawback. Benefit is that you can completely tailor the machine to your needs. You can add components easily when needed, and can keep up with the latest video processing technology. Drawback is that it can be complicated to get everything working correctly, and if you jump onto a new technology too soon, you usually become a guinea pig for software drivers and developpers alike.

So...I'm not sure if Macs will ever really get into gaming. Consoles are just too good at it. They offer stability and a wide array of games. Even consoles aren't immune to glitches though. A home PC gamer with a big budget can build a pretty impressive gaming platform - one that will outperform a console.

It'll be interesting to see where it leads though!
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I'm tired of the "Swiss Army Knife" approach to products nowadays. Manufacturers try to make every product do everything and as a result they seem to be overly complicated and not as good as they might have been if their scope of features was much narrower.

The phone we had when I was growing up could not take pictures or video. It wouldn't fit in my pocket or allow me to play games on it. The calendar was made of paper and attached to the wall ABOVE the phone. The address book was kept in the drawer underneath the phone. Nobody ever had to read a friggin' 200 page book to be able to use it either! Or down load constant software upgrades that ended up hosing things up.

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I'm tired of the "Swiss Army Knife" approach to products nowadays. Manufacturers try to make every product do everything and as a result they seem to be overly complicated and not as good as they might have been if their scope of features was much narrower.

The phone we had when I was growing up could not take pictures or video. It wouldn't fit in my pocket or allow me to play games on it. The calendar was made of paper and attached to the wall ABOVE the phone. The address book was kept in the drawer underneath the phone. Nobody ever had to read a friggin' 200 page book to be able to use it either! Or down load constant software upgrades that ended up hosing things up.

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