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Botnst · #1 04-30-2008, 08:11 PM

Ever notice whose great life-lesson is Vietnam?

Why don't you get over it?

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cmac2012 · #2 05-01-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Ever notice whose great life-lesson is Vietnam?

Why don't you get over it?

Because it is a divide that still grips our nation in a big way. Sin and crime, unadmitted and unattoned for, has a cancerous effect on the spirit, IMO.

Further, the mistaken lessons of it play big-time in opinions about how to proceed in the current quagmire.

John McCain, speaking in Israel, said that people have a right to defend themselves, speaking of course of Israelis who were/are beset by home-made rockets. Apparently he did not or does not retroactively extend this right to the people of Vietnam whom he bombed mercilessly and w/o provocation.

His understanding of the world is badly flawed as a result. He fails to grasp important lessons regarding human nature, believing his pride and presumed righteousness trump such things.

Botnst · #3 05-01-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Because it is a divide that still grips our nation in a big way. Sin and crime, unadmitted and unattoned for, has a cancerous effect on the spirit, IMO.....

I rarely think about Vietnam. It was a part of my life in that I was in the military during that time but it sure isn't a life-lesson like having a kid, getting married, or having a parent die. I know some guys who were on the ground Vietnam ... mostly in the USMC ... who were there, did that, served several tours, moved on. They don't wear old fatigues and go Wall-weeping. They go fishing. They think those other guys are riding a carousel of their own creation much as a reformed sinner gets-up to weep, "I have sinned!" After a half-dozen self-indulgent chest beating episodes it's time to move along.

Should we ignore historically important events? heck no.

You put it in context and use it as an occasionally useful guide. But you don't let it lead you through life by the nose.

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cmac2012 · #4 05-01-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

I rarely think about Vietnam. It was a part of my life in that I was in the military during that time but it sure isn't a life-lesson like having a kid, getting married, or having a parent die. I know some guys who were on the ground Vietnam ... mostly in the USMC ... who were there, did that, served several tours, moved on. They don't wear old fatigues and go Wall-weeping. They go fishing. They think those other guys are riding a carousel of their own creation much as a reformed sinner gets-up to weep, "I have sinned!" After a half-dozen self-indulgent chest beating episodes it's time to move along.

Should we ignore historically important events? heck no.

You put it in context and use it as an occasionally useful guide. But you don't let it lead you through life by the nose.

I'd be happy, believe me, to never reference it again. However, the spector of fat-faced, self-righteous John O'Neill essentially hi-jacking a presidential election based on his barely adult ambitious (I got to go in and meet Pres. Nixon!!!) misconception of his importance and a large part of the country buying into the crap, along with my being besmirched along with all the other 'commie sympathizers' cuz I had the good sense not to get shot up while committing a crime, well I'm telling you, at some point you have to stand up and say not only no, but HELL NO and straighten the record out.

The Russians would have had about as much luck as we did in controlling that country in a big way. Shortly after we left, the NV army repelled a Chinese takeover attempt and put Pol Pot out of business. So much for the creeping spread of communism . . . .