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Old 05-14-2008, 11:30 PM
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I disagree. Rush certainly bashed President Clinton for personal failings, and for his political views. I am certain he felt ( and said), we were headed in a wrong direction.
But bashing the country? I'd have to see quotes ---in context.
It just is not in Rush's nature to bash the country.
The guy used to go on at length about the girth and volume of Hillary's legs, now he paints himself as her one true supporter through thick and thin.
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:27 AM
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One of the real freedoms in America is to make our own choices.
We can choose to eat at Mac Donalds, even though we know it is a poor choice.
We reward success. Rush is rewarded because a great many people listen--sometimes in spite of his stichk.
Unlike liberals, he does not trash America. Like it or not, many Americans like to hear good things about their country; not that America is the root of all evil in the world today.
Unlike many liberals, Rush tells his listeners that they can be successful at whatever they chose to do.
People generally choose to listen to positive stuff as opposed to negatine stuff.

We have that choice---until someone takes it away. Would we be better off without that choice?
I think there is a fine line between bashing America and saying things that are, to say the least, not supportive or not productive for the growth of America.

He and most if not all of the talking heads make a living by taking things out of context or by out right lying. While it is their right to do so, some of the things that they have said are down right ugly and counter productive.

Since we are speaking about Rush, his hypocrisy on drug use, is to say the least shameful. That is just one instance.

Hearing good things is always a nice thing. To think that this country is the best around at everything or that to speak ill if the USA is tantamount to treason are in my opinion missing the point. I have spoken ill of this country because I believe and hope that we can do better. We have not met our potential. Rush and others seem to be of a 'love it or leave it' mentality which I disagree with.

While the US is responsible for quite a bit of the good in the world, we are also responsible for some of the bad. We are the champions of freedom yet we have times in our own past when we have not lived up to that standard. We have made mistakes. There is nothing un-American about admitting that or owning up to those mistakes. That is something the people like Rush and Coulter seem unable or unwilling to do.

People are idiots. The watch Oberman, Frankin, Limbaugh, Coulter ... and think of them as legitimate news sources. They are not. These people are entertainment at best. I watched Oberman one time and that happened to be when British Airways ran a few planes across the pond with out passengers. Various Eco groups freaked out and it made the 'news'. I work for the industry and I am reasonable sure I know EXACTLY why they flew the planes. Oberman never even explored that avenue or even asked the question. Never cared for him after that, not that I really liked him before that either. The point is that if you are going to go out there and actually pretend that you are a source of information (they are on news channels after all) you damn well ought to take that job seriously and do your best to present both sides as fairly as you can. They do not and as far as I am concerned, while it may not full fill the definition of 'bashing America' it sure comes damn close and I am not sure I see the difference.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:21 PM
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I think there is a fine line between bashing America and saying things that are, to say the least, not supportive or not productive for the growth of America.

He and most if not all of the talking heads make a living by taking things out of context or by out right lying. While it is their right to do so, some of the things that they have said are down right ugly and counter productive.

Since we are speaking about Rush, his hypocrisy on drug use, is to say the least shameful. That is just one instance.

Hearing good things is always a nice thing. To think that this country is the best around at everything or that to speak ill if the USA is tantamount to treason are in my opinion missing the point. I have spoken ill of this country because I believe and hope that we can do better. We have not met our potential. Rush and others seem to be of a 'love it or leave it' mentality which I disagree with.

While the US is responsible for quite a bit of the good in the world, we are also responsible for some of the bad. We are the champions of freedom yet we have times in our own past when we have not lived up to that standard. We have made mistakes. There is nothing un-American about admitting that or owning up to those mistakes. That is something the people like Rush and Coulter seem unable or unwilling to do.

People are idiots. The watch Oberman, Frankin, Limbaugh, Coulter ... and think of them as legitimate news sources. They are not. These people are entertainment at best. I watched Oberman one time and that happened to be when British Airways ran a few planes across the pond with out passengers. Various Eco groups freaked out and it made the 'news'. I work for the industry and I am reasonable sure I know EXACTLY why they flew the planes. Oberman never even explored that avenue or even asked the question. Never cared for him after that, not that I really liked him before that either. The point is that if you are going to go out there and actually pretend that you are a source of information (they are on news channels after all) you damn well ought to take that job seriously and do your best to present both sides as fairly as you can. They do not and as far as I am concerned, while it may not full fill the definition of 'bashing America' it sure comes damn close and I am not sure I see the difference.
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:17 PM
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:13 PM
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You really feel threatened by your treatment on this forum?
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:29 PM
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RichC,
You really feel threatened by your treatment on this forum?
Wow!
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Why are you trying to put words in my mouth again ?

Can you put together one paragraph that is not false, misleading,
or just plain wrong ?

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Knowing that people with such reverent, narrow minded, opinions as
Rush and the people that support him is pretty creepy to me.

But I do not feel threatened by what has been said in the thread.

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Maybe you need to look in the mirror.


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Old 05-14-2008, 04:42 PM
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Old 05-14-2008, 06:30 PM
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That's it! It is everybody else!
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I never made that claim either.

Apparently you cannot comprehend what people write,
If you think that is what I just said.

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Can you get off the personal stuff and get back to the topic.
Do you have anything in support of Rush ?

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Old 05-14-2008, 06:55 PM
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I never made that claim either.

Apparently you cannot comprehend what people write,
If you think that is what I just said.

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Can you get off the personal stuff and get back to the topic.
Do you have anything in support of Rush ?

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It's not personal, it's business.

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Old 05-14-2008, 08:35 PM
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This is just creepy.

Somehow you manage to make every post about you personally.

The % of " I" and "me" and other self referencing words in your postings leads me to the belief that you are seriously self-absorbed.

Your veiled threats just add to the impression.
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:45 PM
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This is just creepy.

Somehow you manage to make every post about you personally.

The % of " I" and "me" and other self referencing words in your postings leads me to the belief that you are seriously self-absorbed.

Your veiled threats just add to the impression.
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:32 PM
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Just sounds like a mild bout of bipolar disorder.. lol.
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:39 PM
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:46 PM
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Thread of the year?
Ahhh, but the year is still young. Hope springs eternal that richc will provide us with many more posts from whatever planet he exists on.
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:48 PM
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Thread of the year?
This thread has got to be in the running.

If anybody here knows Mr Limbaugh, please send him a link to this thread. I can picture him quaking with laughter, tears in his eyes!

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