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Old 05-10-2008, 10:48 PM
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I want to use words that accurately portray reality.
According to your (wiki's) definition, Liberals champion individual rights. I believe that is a myth. Liberals champion GROUP rights at the expense of individuals.
If they truly support individual rights, I would be identified as one.
Maybe I should simply identify myself as a Jeffersonian Constitutionalist.
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Now your getting it...
You need to change what you are calling yourself..
Not the definitions of the words..

Maybe you are learning what you really are
instead of what someone has told you what you should be.

That is the basic tenant of liberalism, individual freedoms or rights.
It is impossible to take that from the definition of the word.
that is exactly what it means.

I hold some conservative ideas also.
Like the idea of non intervention in foreign matters.
But my basic beliefs are more liberal.
Does that mean I get to change the definition of conservative
to fit what I think ??
No...

If you truly are a Jefferson Constitutionalist that means your ideas
lye in the middle of the road like Jefferson's.
Along with a lot of other people.
And even some of my beliefs.



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Old 05-10-2008, 10:53 PM
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I want to use words that accurately portray reality.
According to your (wiki's) definition, Liberals champion individual rights. I believe that is a myth. Liberals champion GROUP rights at the expense of individuals.
If they truly support individual rights, I would be identified as one.
Maybe I should simply identify myself as a Jeffersonian Constitutionalist.
Liberals champion some individual rights, as do conservatives. The exact rights in question aren't the same, of course.

A Jeffersonian Constitutionalist sounds quite libertarian. Are you willing to join the dark side?
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:55 PM
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In fact I think you post when your really feinding for another drink.
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That is really a jackass statement.

To be honest with you.

I am an alcoholic, and I have been sober now for over 18 years.

And my wifes father just passed away from alcoholism.

Do you have any other jewels you want to lay on me.

Thanks a bunch !!!

Really nice !!

What a jerk comment....

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Old 05-10-2008, 10:57 PM
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Liberals champion some individual rights, as do conservatives. The exact rights in question aren't the same, of course.

A Jeffersonian Constitutionalist sounds quite libertarian. Are you willing to join the dark side?

No, I cant say I understand the libertarians very well.

But I do wonder if I will get more conservative as I get older
like they say everyone does.


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Old 05-10-2008, 11:21 PM
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I've become much more libertarian, and not thus not conservative in the modern sense. However, I do recognize the need for some governmental intervention. How much? That's the trillion-dollar question.
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:38 PM
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I really believe that most peoples ideas fit in the same basket.

It is jerks like Rush that try there best to polarize people
so they can make a buck off of it, that causes lots of problems.

Most of the really bad leaders of the world use this tactic to
gain popularity.

It is sad that people can hate each other so much because
someone tells them that they should.


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Old 05-10-2008, 11:44 PM
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Rush doesn't care about that stuff, , he's a businessman and damned good at what he does. We're up to 128 posts on a thread about a guy most of us pretend to ignore. He's laughing at that. And you.

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Old 05-10-2008, 11:50 PM
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That is really a jackass statement.

To be honest with you.

I am an alcoholic, and I have been sober now for over 18 years.

And my wifes father just passed away from alcoholism.

Do you have any other jewels you want to lay on me.

Thanks a bunch !!!

Really nice !!

What a jerk comment....

RichC

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, you are writing like a drunk. You wouldn't be the only one around here who PWD. So it is not a big deal that somebody thinks you are toasted. Heck, some dickhead thinks I'm Jewish, which should cause great anguish in the Jewish community worldwide. Get over it.

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Old 05-11-2008, 12:09 AM
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, you are writing like a drunk. You wouldn't be the only one around here who PWD. So it is not a big deal that somebody thinks you are toasted. Heck, some dickhead thinks I'm Jewish, which should cause great anguish in the Jewish community worldwide. Get over it.

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His timing and accuracy are impecible...

MMMMmmm.... religousism... smells so good ?

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Old 05-11-2008, 12:23 AM
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Rush doesn't care about that stuff, , he's a businessman and damned good at what he does. We're up to 128 posts on a thread about a guy most of us pretend to ignore. He's laughing at that. And you.

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I'm happy to report that I don't care about Limp Rush either, in fact, I don't have to pretend I am ignoring him, since in reality I have never heard a minute of his radio show nor did I read a line of his internet presentations.

An other part of reality is, that his reputation is actually so far down the toilet, that one doens't need to listen or read any of his stuff to know what he's up to.

Beyond that, I think, this thread has become a nice example of what Limp Rush actually stands for and Rich C is certainly doing a great job putting up with the gargabe that's being dumped on him.

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Old 05-11-2008, 01:21 AM
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That is really a jackass statement.

To be honest with you.

I am an alcoholic, and I have been sober now for over 18 years.

And my wifes father just passed away from alcoholism.

Do you have any other jewels you want to lay on me.

Thanks a bunch !!!

Really nice !!

What a jerk comment....

RichC

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Your inate rambling isn't making me the only one wondering. But it would help explain your random insane flip flop statements. Just an observation. I can't help it if you can't take the heat. You sure can dish it out. No apologies.
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Old 05-11-2008, 06:54 AM
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Your inate rambling isn't making me the only one wondering. But it would help explain your random insane flip flop statements. Just an observation. I can't help it if you can't take the heat. You sure can dish it out. No apologies.
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What exactly do you think I have flip flopped on ?

I can defiantly take the heat,
I encourage you to do your best to keep me honest, find flaws in my thinking, point out where I am misinformed.

But you changed the topic of conversation to personal matters..
Which really have no place here...
I don't mind discussing them, my life is an open book.
Ask any question you want.. but be careful.. I will do my best to answer
you honestly.

You could not hold your opinions because they were not true..
So you got angry and tried to attack me on a personal level...
Rather childish, but I can handle it.


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Old 05-11-2008, 01:21 PM
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What exactly do you think I have flip flopped on ?

I can defiantly take the heat,
I encourage you to do your best to keep me honest, find flaws in my thinking, point out where I am misinformed.

But you changed the topic of conversation to personal matters..
Which really have no place here...
I don't mind discussing them, my life is an open book.
Ask any question you want.. but be careful.. I will do my best to answer
you honestly.

You could not hold your opinions because they were not true..
So you got angry and tried to attack me on a personal level...
Rather childish, but I can handle it.


RichC
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I didn't try to attack you on a personal level, I made an observation. Emotionally you are all over the board. From my experience as a bar and nightclub owner who has seen all kinds of drugs and alcohol and the problems they cause, I get to recognise behavior patterns. When someone rambles like you have been, I would suspect you would either be high on something, yearning to get high on something, coming down from being high on something in in the beginnings of a hangover from being high on something.

Todays post sounds like you sobered up. It's been my experience that those who were alcoholics or drug abusers most often don't stop completely, they trade on addiction for another. They either turn to marijuana, speed, methamphetamine, coke, crank, rock, or heroin.

I don't think you are on heroin, rock, crank or methamphetamine. But I thought from a couple of your ramblings that you could be on speed or pot. Your childish flaming and cutthroat reactions to hearing what you didn't want to hear or read led me to think those might be a possibility. I would lean more toward marijuana from your emotional responses.

God only knows there is enough drugs coming in from across the border into Texas since Johnny Sutton let's drug dealers through while throwing our border patrol agents in jail for doing their jobs! I'm not trying to piss you off here either, but it's not like there haven't been PM's going around wondering what you are on during some of your rants. You flame to easily sounding like a child that won't get it's way and accuse based on your bias rather than fact. In fact, this very post is different than most of yours. It's clear, calm and makes sense.

My recommendations, I don't do drugs at all, and I don't want to be around anyone who does, but I've never seen anyone willing to give up their jobs, sell their possessions, quit paying rent, stop feeding their kids, not pay the bills or be willing to die to get marijuana. Heck, some states even have given doctors prescriptions for it.

For god's sake I wouldn't touch anything else. I've seen to many people who totally screwed up their entire lives on anything else and it has been reported that marijuana coming across the border has been laced with PCP lately, at least from what I've heard here on the news in Arizona.
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Old 05-11-2008, 06:54 PM
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The picture with the words...is that a quote from Rush, himself...or is that a "composed" picture with the deceptive impression that Rush actually said that stuff...I notice there are no "quote" marks around any of the wording and the website where this "artistic" piece is drawn from has an "infantile" flavor to it...

But, should I expect any higher level of intelligent discussions from a lame, liberal attempt at character assassination than that website would supposedly exhibit?

I guess not...so as the "discussion" denigrates, out come the "libo-bombs" of name-calling and other assorted signs of lost causes...

Thanks for the demonstration...

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Old 05-11-2008, 06:59 PM
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Why not? You liberals do all the time!

Maybe you are more liberal than what you think...
Beware the witch hunting virus.

Whaaa?? Fleas on rats causin' the black death?!? Nay, iss the WITCHES, I tell tha, the WITCHES!!

A problem identified is a problem half solved. Excessive govt. and govt. interference is a problem but the free market, unrestrained, can be seriously whack also.

Check out El Salvador. The upper 1% control some 90%+ of the wealth. Not too far from what went on in the old Europe than many of our ancestors escaped from.

Got to have a balance.

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