FYI, fleas on rats do not cause any disease in man.

Those who thrive on scheudenfreude eventually fall to smash. I'll be damned if I sit by and let his BROADCASTED half-truths and other assorted crap go un-contested.

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Never heard the guy on the radio once and I live in the area.

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Oh well, I was under the impression that one of the possible causes of the black plague was rats, or rather the germs they carried, spread by fleas.

Nonetheless, my point is, I believe, valid. The guy who early on considered that lack of cleanliness, handwashing, etc., in hospitals was a major cause of illness was widely ridiculed by his fellows. One dramatization I saw on this (not sure if it's from an actual event) showed him presenting a bowl of hot soapy water to a colleague, who allowed him to place it in his hands only to drop it to the floor with a crash.

Point being, people can be highly self-assured of some "fact" and be utterly wrong.

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Germs, there ya go. Rats almost always have fleas (and lice) even when there is no plague. Rats get the blood-borne disease, fleas suck their blood and hop to a human and infect the human when the flea back-flushes his siphon.

Humans in the sw USA get plague every year but it fails to spread, because we no longer have endemic flea populations in the human population. In the USA. If you live in the sw, make sure your pets don't have fleas.

B

PS Google Semmelweis (I think that's the spelling) for info on puerperal fever. That's the deathbed disease women once died from in alarming numbers and it was due to unclean doctors. Midwives were generally cleaner than doctors of the day and so, had less loss of patience due to that problem.

I keep hearing bits on the local radical station (KPFA, first public supported radio in the US) about the much lower usage of midwifes in the US as compared to other countries and how our infant mortality rates are not good among industrialized nations. One thing I've heard for years is that OBGyns like cesareans cause they can schedule them for convenience.

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You won't find him on NPR....

Try AM radio. You might learn something.

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For our 2nd kid the woman in the next delivery room over had a midwife. And chanting with tambourine accompaniment that councided with contractions.

Hare Krisnna's.

I got to know them pretty well and helped them with native plant ID and understand some late 19th century plant manuals of medicinal herbs. Interesting group of folks.

B

I listen to KSFO (limbaugh, hannity) and I forget, KQKE maybe (air America and leftovers) now and then but the station Ward is on has never attracted me for some reason. I tune to it and then leave after a few minutes.

The main thing I learn from Rush and Hannity is that they are utterly convinced of their correctness. They found a small nugget of truth years ago and formed their entire universe around it, thinking they had discovered ultimate truth.

They're already badly discredited, they just don't know it yet.

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Stuff can go wrong with that too, of course. One woman up in Okanogan county WA, has delivered many babies. One time, the woman she was helping was having serious problems and started losing a lot of blood.

The midwife was seriously urging going to the hospital immediately but the mother was freaked out about going with modern med. in any way. Finally they dragged her there and she managed to live but it was dicey. The midwife avoided the woman ever after. I know the mother somewhat, she is a bit of a trip.

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Actually, I can't stand to listen to either one of them. Both of 'em are self promoting gassbags, although they are correct on most issues. As long as they annoy lib'ruls, they're doing a great job, though.

Since I work for a living, I don't get to listen to much daytime radio. I do like to catch Mark Levin on the ride home, though.

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You're making my point...take a picture and let's say...put WHAT YOU THINK HE MIGHT HAVE SAID on the picutre...then it's good as gold...the picture and verbage MUST mean it's true...

Sorry...commies and libs want to do that crap all the time...I'm not buying it and I'll call anyone a fool that tries to sell it to me or anyone else that it is true...and if Repos are doing the same thing (Think CHAOS ) they are just as guilty (if not more so) for doing something so assinine and idiotic...

If you want Rush to have said that, then find an irrefutable source to prove the point, then slap a "hammer & sickle" motif on someone/thing that makes more sense...but if slander/innuendo is the name of the game...keep that crap right out there for all to see...it just makes the LiberDemReenTuFus more laughable...and un-electable...

See ya' on the sidelines...

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“I didn’t really say everything I said.”
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~ Yogi Berra ~

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I do not do any drugs of any sort anymore.

My doctor cant even get me to take a pain pill.

So there is no way that my posts have anything to do with
being under the influence of anything.

I am simply honest.
Extremely intelligent.
And have the balls to speak my mind.

And I really don't give a rodents derriar what most
people think of me.
Good or bad.
I respect a few of my closest friends opinions
of me.

Praise and Blame.
Its all the same.
Nothing I want to listen to.

You are not used to a person like me.
it takes a while to get used to.
I am not your average Joe.

Most people that are full of siht either get away from me quick.
So they can continue there bull.
Or
Stay, and quit the bull and realize that honesty is an
extremely rare an valuable asset in humans.

I am extremely peaceful
and content.
Nothing here has ever really aggravated me.

Even when I told one member that
If I were one hairs width closer to being a killer
he would be a dead man.
Because it was the truth.
And I am not a killer, but can be very close.

So figure out what you want to be, and do it.
Cz I don't care what you think of me.

Now tell me honestly !!!!
Do you look at your toilet paper after you wipe ????
Think, and give an honest answer !!!!


RichC

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Dude, I guess you missed the link I gave to CNN's converage of Rush
saying exactly what I said he did.

Here it is again.

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(CNN) – As Hillary Clinton battles to keep her presidential bid alive, she may be getting help from an unlikely source: conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh.
Limbaugh has been actively urging his Texas listeners to cross over and vote for Clinton in that state's open primary Tuesday, arguing it helps the Republicans if the Democratic race remains unsettled for weeks to come.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...e-for-clinton/

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I guess as per your logic earlier
that makes you the fool.

Have Fun !
RichC

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8164932190710242671