You are honestly full of yourself!

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Nope...didn't miss the link...I ignored it...You're too hard to follow in this discussion...you're all over the road with anything that resembles logic and I don't have the time to read all of your ramblings...the thought processes () are too many in one location at a time.

As for quotable sources...I don't put alot of stock in CNN since they went on the air back in whatever year...I just don't care about them and their left-leaning hacking...

Yeah, they finally figured it out...that's been news (SOP) long before Ms. Billy-Bob came anywhere near Texas. Rush has been blamed for "CHAOS" for a long time...News? Someone's been getting too much shade hiding under a rock...come on out and get a little tanned...

Someone telling someone else how to vote is...illegal?

Oh, right...McCain/Feingold...or...is...it...oh, I know!!! Blame it on TV! No, wait..Radio...Oh, WAIT!! It's the PACS!!! OH! OH! OH! WAIT-WAIT-WAIT!!! I heard two guys at the water cooler talking about space ships and aliens!!! That's it!!!

Little green guys are manipulating the election so Hillbillie-Bob gets the nomination and ends up losing to McCain!!!

God, I'm glad that I figured that one out for everyone!!!!

HEY! CHAOS! YOU CAN QUIT SCREWING UP THE ELECTION FOR OBAMA NOW! THE SECRET IS OUT!

Really? I could care less...it's talk radio...you get stirred up about Rush? You and the rest must think he has some "all-powerful sway" on folks...

Sorry to disappoint you...the fool is the person that believes that Rush is the man behind the curtain...

My comment about the "fool" is in reference, ONLY, to the stated picture with no "quotes" about the source of the wording, and those that believe it came from the subject of the picture itself. My question/comment was concerning whether the words are truly what the subject uttered...and no one that presents that picture is able to verify it...therefore, those following foolishness are...

If the "author" is too lazy to to put a lame piece of work together properly, thereby making a better statement that could be "factual"...I'm not buying it...only fools and kids trade this stuff like Pokeman cards on a playground.

I guess if you believe I referred to something, you believe in to be truthful, making you a fool, so be it.

But logically, since I referred ONLY to the picture and its author as a source of foolishness and I referred not to your post about the CNN quote (which I didn't care to comment on because of the above-stated opinion...) the true fool is the person taking anything they can string together to make it the new source of their "logic" - they should look very carefully before pointing the finger...

BTW, I do have fun...all the time...'cause if I took anything too seriously, I'd be doing drugs...mainly heartburn. For me, my drugs are a multi-vitamin and an aspirin every few days or so...

I also noticed on your post referring to me...I must have hit a sore point w/you...you removed your little "fool" from your sigs...

You...have some fun!

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Dude, GET REAL.

Rush has made it very clear that he thinks he's throwing wrenches in the Demo gears and loving every minute of it.

All of your disseminating is ****** and ****.

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Rush has said that the purpose of "operation chaos" is to politically damage both democrat candidates.
I find it amusing when talking heads say things like," Rush thinks Hillary would be easier to defeat than Obama, so he tells his ditto heads to support Hillary in the primaries". He has never said anything like that.

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Rush has now received over 150 posts to his thread, and he doesn't even have a prayer tower!

Rush loves you, each and everyone!

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Duuuuuude, like WOW man...are we talking 'bout the Bush & Rush of the 80s or the 00s?

Come on...if YOU believe Rush believes he's directing the downfall of the Democratic party by orchestrating a cross-over voting scheme for Hilly-Bob, then someone connected the two posts of a 9-Volt battery on your tin-foil hat and plugged in the wall-wart charger for extra juice...

Seriously, if Rush could "sway" the election process with his listenership, then apathy in this election is at an all-time high...at least from the Democratic side.

And, even IF that were possible, what does that say about the Democratic party itself?

The Democratic Party is too fragmented of a group to hold just one conserted thought long enough to see it through to fruition...just like ALL DEMOCRATIC PROGRAMS, someone is going to have to come on in and finish the deal, or at least, put it out of its misery...

Oh well, since the likes of the common folks couldn't get the job done...it's up to the... ( Cue the "GOD-LIKE" voice... )


...to come to the rescue of the poor, ill-informed populace that inhabits the voting booths and graveyards of the Chicago (and any other Democratic stronghold) political arenas and save the nation from itself...

Because, just like the American People, the Democrats of this nation (and the voters in Florida and Ohio) just aren't capable of handling a simple process of voting for one single candidate...

So now, BIG BROTHER SUPER-DELEGATE will TELL EVERYONE who is the BEST person to lead this nation back behind the defensive lines for that warm and fuzzy feeling of peace and appeasement.

And you're all worried that Rush is going to determine the outcome of Democratic primaries?

Who's smokin' what here?

Duuuuuuuude........

Oh, BTW, on one of the MS/NBC/CNN twinkie channels...there was a "shot" of BO with a flag-pin on his left lapel. I saw this around 2130 CDT...

I'm guessing that one of BO's handlers FINALLY got through to him...too bad it's 15 states too late...then all this VOODOO-HOODOO CHAOS crap would have been for naught...

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Here it is from Rush's mouth

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Rush+limbaugh+vote+hillary&hl=en&sitesearch=

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Not only does operation chaos undermine the verry basis of
a democracy.
By making your vote not count.

If it could be proven that his work changed election outcomes
by subverting the voting process.
Not only could he be charged with a crime.
Every person who illegally crossed over can be charged.

And yet you people support him.
Imagine how angry you would be if a Democrat
got people to do the same thing.

It would be all over the news.

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I cannot understand why people would vote for the current republicans.

Can you not see you are being manipulated ?

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You do not make enough money to benefit from the current republican
tactics.
In fact you suffer from their policies.
Gas is at higher prices than we have ever seen.
Billions of dollars are being funneled into companies like Haliburton via the war.
Your house is worth much less than it was 4 years ago.
The country is going into a recession, and maybe a depression.
The national budget went from being balanced to being more in debt than we ever have.
I could go on and on...

You think issues like abortion, and gay marriage, and immigration are
what you should worry about.

Can you not see you are being pandered to with these issues to get you
to vote the way they want you too ???

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Your average 7 year old thinks in black and white.
If you asked them if gay marriage is right or not they will almost always answer no.
They answer this way because they do not understand the issue and because
of that they are fearful of it, and say no, it should not happen.

Some people never progress past this sort of thinking.
Fear keeps them from it.

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Republicans understand this and that is why they pander to these fears.
To get you to vote the way they want you to.

No one can say they are without fear.
But you do not have to base your decisions on fear.
It will lead you to a very miserable life.

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How happy are you right now.
Fighting thru traffic to get to work at a job you do not really care for.
And not getting paid well to do it.
And now the money you do make is worth much less.
And you can barely afford the gas to drive the car to work.

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There is a way out.
You do not have to let fear run your life.
We are all in this fight together.
We can make things better.
It is possible to be happy again.

Stop letting fear run your life.
You have control.
Mark Twain said that you are about as happy as you make your mind up
to be, and he is right.

He also said that he had been thru thousand of bad situations in his lifetime.
And a few of them actually happened !


We have noting to fear, but fear itself !


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RichC,
I agree...to a point.
To live in fear is to be manipulated.
But BOTH parties use fear to motivate their bases.
Liberals use the fear that a Christian candidate will impose his views in their bedrooms.
Democrats continually use fear of SS going bankrupt to motivate the elderly--but then they never solve the problem. If they actually fixed SS, they could no longer use it to dfearfully manipulate the elderly.

There are more examples, and I don't wish to make lists to see which party uses fear more than the other.
Its enough to say that Fear is a well-used tool to motivate various factions of both parties.
To single out the repubs and say they use fear is to speak only half of the truth.

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There is a difference between pointing out a potential problem that may
cause fear in some people.

And deliberately using fear as a tactic to manipulate peoples opinion.

I do not think it is evil to point out that there are problems with SS.

I do think it is evil to get people to vote for you by scaring them into believing that gay marriage will destroy the American family.

One is a valid problem. Social security is in jeopardy.
People will die from lack of medication, food, housing etc..


The second is a ridiculous claim. Gay marriage will destroy the American family.

What, is a gay couple gonna sneak into your house while your having
dinner and start having sex in front of your family or something ?
And even if they did how does that destroy a family ?

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One is a valid concern.

One is a con and a lie setup to effect how you vote.



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The major political parties offer little difference between them. Thank goodness Bob Barr has entered the race. Now I can vote for somebody whom I respect. Yes, we have different views on a few issues, but I'm not a single-issue voter. The man stands for liberty and the constitution. That's fine with me.

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Operation CHAOS, like the attempt by Democrat-friendly parties to manipulate the Bush-McCain primaries back when Bush was still under the guise of being a Conservative to Conservatives (change your registration in order to vote for McCain because the base won't go out to vote for him), will fail.

This appears to be strike two on that not-so-clandestined political strategy.

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If you agree that SS is in jepardy, don't you think its use as a continual campaign issue is hypocritical? Why have the dems not solved it permanently by now? They have had the opportunity, and the ability, but lack the will. The obvious answer is that they want to retain it as a campaign issue. That is evil.

As for gay marriage. My opposition lies in the word "marriage". I have no problem with civil unions, or almost any other term. I fully support their civil rights.
Marriage has always (thruought recorded history anyway) meant a man and a woman. You are the proponent that we should not change definitions simply to suit ourselves. Why not be consistent, and acknowledge that the word "marriage" is inappropriate for gay couples? Or is there another, hidden agenda?

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So did Ron Paul...and look what happened to him...

My decision to vote for who I choose is just that...MY DECISION.

Not Rush's.

Not Bot's.

Not cmac2012's.

Not RichC's.

Not my wife's.

It's mine.

My decision is based on what information (this is going to sound familiar to some folks here...and not because I said it) I have in front of me, whatever research I've done on the topic (not panic-info from someone else), the particular candidate's RECORD or past actions on concerns that are dear to me and what the person's CORE VALUES are.

I've said this in the past...The foundation that a person has established says more about that person's character than anything else.

If the candidate has been a model citizen and suddenly he's (term is a gender-neutral reference) thrust into the lime-light of the political theater, there's bound to be a substantial change in that individual...anyone that believes different is not dealing with reality...as part of the saying goes..."...power corrupts..."

But, over the past 30 years, education has slipped to all-time lows...I read, on this forum, "tons" of posts about how the "President did this..." and the "President did that..." and what I'm reading is something that the poster read/heard from someone else and parroted it back to this stage...

Like "some" media outlets, the "facts" (as they were) have never been checked or verified...

The President doesn't spend one penny unless Congress approves it.

The President doesn't send one soldier into harm's way unless Congress approves it.

The President doesn't "dictate policy" from the Oval Office unless Congress approves it.

That's why this country is the best that there is in the world. These "checks" and "balances" were set up by men that had moral character and fiber in their beings...they had a solid foundation in which to draw strength from...and the had they courage to stand up and fight (literally) for what they believed in. Many fought and lost much.

Are all the people that were, or currently serving, in government pure and pristine?

Are you kidding?

Human nature skews those numbers...I would venture to guess that no less than 40% couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag with the bottom missing and sides ripped open. Some of them demonstrate, on a day-to-day basis, that they are there for themselves (or someone else) only...not for the very people that elected them.

So, is Rush guilty of manipulating the Democratic process?

He's no more guilty than OPEC - Any PAC - DNC - RNC - FBI - CIA - IRS - or any other entity that promotes their side.

If the rules are set up to vote for whoever I choose, then when I punch out a chad, connect the arrow or pull a lever...that's me in that booth doing the damage, not you, not Rush, not Al (Franken, not Gore!) or any other "mystery entity" of anyone else's imagination.

And who I vote for is no one else's business. They may think they should know, but they're wrong.

If you're looking for the "Voting Boogey-man" - look no further than the little boxes in your home or car...and even more so on voting day...the media will "give" you instant, up to the last nauseating minute, coverage of what THEY THINK the current situation is.

If ESPN can give you 6 hours of non-stop coverage of the NFL Draft and somehow managed to keep a few million folks glued to the radio or TV, where on earth do you think those clowns got their lessons from?

And if you think that for one minute that Rush, or anyone else for that matter, can perform "mind tricks" from behind a microphone, thousands of miles away from the actual voting booth, then I have a little story for you...something involving a few Martians and a few non-descript little towns in New Jersey...

Because, what I see here is no different than what was done many years ago on a dark, Halloween, night.

And if that person and his merry little band of players were able to pull that off, then he's not too far off from having predicted that human nature can be manipulated enough to get a certain character, named "Wilson," to believe that "...2+2 does equal 5..."

But, no one, that I'm aware of, is being kept in a small box or having their spirit broken in order to vote for someone else's candidate of choice.

But, if you want to believe that little bit of VOODOO, well, all I can say is...

"Good for you Wilson. You've figured it out."

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