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Old 08-06-2008, 07:48 PM
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Tires properly inflated...



...and I'm reaping the benefits!!!



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Old 08-06-2008, 09:04 PM
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Where are you getting your information? That's not what he said.
Don't you think its a tad condescending for the democrat vice presidential candidate to lecture on the advantages of proper inflating tire?
I do. I think it is about as significant as the "flag pin" controversy.

The number being tossed around on the savings are silly--they must assume that every car is 10 PSI under inflated.

Wind Mill farms make more sense, and would have more impact that this idea.
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Don't you think its a tad condescending for the democrat vice presidential candidate to lecture on the advantages of proper inflating tire? I do. I think it is about as significant as the "flag pin" controversy.
That would be Presidential candidate and I think it's very appropriate to inform the public on simple conservation and safety issues. Good advice is good advice, irregardless of the source. The pin debacle was meaningless.

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The number being tossed around on the savings are silly--they must assume that every car is 10 PSI under inflated.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if 20% of the cars on the road have a least 2 tires 10 psi underinflated, more during winter. Many people today don't even own a tire pressure gauge much less check the tire pressure.

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Wind Mill farms make more sense, and would have more impact that this idea.
Wind farms don't produce petroleum, and wind farms currently produce little electricity compared to the big picture. It costs nothing to properly inflate your tires and the fuel savings can be quite substantial nationally. Immediate and tangible savings for no cost is good for everyone.

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Don't you think its a tad condescending for the democrat vice presidential candidate to lecture on the advantages of proper inflating tire?
I do. I think it is about as significant as the "flag pin" controversy.

The number being tossed around on the savings are silly--they must assume that every car is 10 PSI under inflated.

Wind Mill farms make more sense, and would have more impact that this idea.

Not an assumption - it's a fact. I see it all day every day. Is my statement scientific ? To most - NO. Is it my job to notice ? YES. Twenty years in the auto repair business and I can and will say with the utmost certainty that 80%-plus of the cars I see have under-inflated tires and -10psi isn't a vague assumption......

Guy came in today with a Q7 on stock-sized tires - 265/50R18 that has roughly 6 inches worth of sidewall - with the TPMS warning light on.
- Did you check the tire pressure ?
- I don't know how to.
I check all 4 but I check the left front tire last purposely.
- Your rear tires are at 28psi, the right front at 26 psi and the left front barely pops the pressure gauge to 20psi.(6 inches of sidewall at the left rear and about 3 inches at the left front with less than 20psi in it and you see nothing wrong ?) Did the light just come on ?
- No, it's been on for 2 weeks but this is the first chance I've had to stop by..
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:42 PM
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Not an assumption - it's a fact. I see it all day every day. Is my statement scientific ? To most - NO. Is it my job to notice ? YES. Twenty years in the auto repair business and I can and will say with the utmost certainty that 80%-plus of the cars I see have under-inflated tires and -10psi isn't a vague assumption......
The majority of drivers are completely helpless and ignorant when it comes to maintaining their cars. They buy gas, maybe change their oil once in a while and if the car runs well their happy. Tire pressure is something they get when new tires are bought.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:50 PM
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Tires properly inflated...



...and I'm reaping the benefits!!!

Wow, 13 miles to the gallon @ 600rpm's ... the tank is still full!! You need to be awarded.
Wait a minute ... what does the speedometer suggest? Ahhhh, you're not really going anywhere!?
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Don't you think its a tad condescending for the democrat vice presidential candidate to lecture on the advantages of proper inflating tire?
I assume that you meant to say Democratic presidential candidate, not "democrat vice presidential" candidate.

No, I don't see anything condescending about it, although your view fits nicely with the current GOP talking points.

I didn't see his comment as being a lecture, the message I took from his comment is that McCain is too focused on production and not enough on conservation.
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...I think it is about as significant as the "flag pin" controversy...
By which you mean it is insignificant? I would have to agree with that.
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The number being tossed around on the savings are silly--they must assume that every car is 10 PSI under inflated.
I agree.
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Wind Mill farms make more sense, and would have more impact that this idea.
Has Obama said otherwise?
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:35 PM
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Wow, 13 miles to the gallon @ 600rpm's ... the tank is still full!! You need to be awarded.
Wait a minute ... what does the speedometer suggest? Ahhhh, you're not really going anywhere!?
Well, I don't think we need to drag my career into this...
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:08 AM
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yeah, proper tire inflation IS important.
But THATS his answer to the oil crisis? Yeah, no need for more oil now, just air up those tires and OPEC will be quaking in the sandles. What ever will they do with all that oil that we won't be buying, now?
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You hit the nail on the head.
You just did it with your face instead of a hammer.

This issue is the answer to the oil crisis,
but its not about tire pressure,
its about taking personal responsibility for our actions.

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Don't you think its a tad condescending for the democrat vice presidential candidate to lecture on the advantages of proper inflating tire?
I do. I think it is about as significant as the "flag pin" controversy.

The number being tossed around on the savings are silly--they must assume that every car is 10 PSI under inflated.

Wind Mill farms make more sense, and would have more impact that this idea.

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Go check your tire pressure and get back with us.

But first can you even tell us where you can find the correct
pressure recommended for your tires ?

When you return with the numbers I will do the math that will
tell us how much fuel you are wasting.

Then we will multiply your number, times all the cars on the road
in the US.

Then we will see how much fuel the entire US is wasting.

Then subtract that from the amount of foreign oil that we use.

Then we can tell if the simple task of airing up your tires could
end our dependency on foreign oil.

You may be really surprised !!!



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I don't think it will ever be possible to compensate the "foot on the pedal pressure" with even the most accurate tire pressure.

Quite contrary, if your tires are completely deflated, you will actually save the most fuel, simply because your car won't be driven.

It's a hoax at its best and if it's not a hoax it's a mere bagatelle.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:08 AM
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So, we need no new oil. Thats simply amazing. We actually can conserve our way out of the problem.

I am speechless.

Well, not quite.
I do know where the tire pressure information is located on my vehicles.
I also have a plethora of gauges; many give readings that differ from the others.
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So, we need no new oil. Thats simply amazing. We actually can conserve our way out of the problem.
Sure we need more oil. If everyone conserved just 10%, the results would equal pumping 10% more out of the ground. Simple logic.

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I also have a plethora of gauges; many give readings that differ from the others.
So maybe you should get one good one.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:51 AM
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Again, where does this info come from ? No one is or has said we "need no oil." Simply that we can conserve so much by doing so little (taking 2 minutes per month to check your tires) that it would REDUCE the amount we need to import, and why not invest in some alternatives ? Why should billions go into a finite resource and not a $$ go into any alternatives that are endless like wind, solar ? Did you check 1 box only when it came to deciding how your 401K money is being invested ? Are all your eggs "in one basket" so to speak ? Sometimes things are REALLY that simple.......
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:55 AM
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Again, where does this info come from ? No one is or has said we "need no oil." Simply that we can conserve so much by doing so little (taking 2 minutes per month to check your tires) that it would REDUCE the amount wee need to import......
All this talk about underinflated tires. Sure, they'll help with a very slight reduction in oil consumption.

However, how much will the country save.........as a whole........if we did wholesale brain transplants on the entire $hitbox driving population so that they could grasp the concept that a brake pedal is really a piss pedal. Every time you step on it, you piss fuel out the window.

A simple change in driving habits would result in enormous conservation of fuel........to the tune of 10% I would hazard a guess...........far more than any tire inflation program could give you.

Unfortunately, the cost of the brain transplant might offset the fuel savings...........

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