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Old 08-27-2008, 08:43 PM
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What makes you think a MB or BMW willlast or be rock solid in 10 years? The old ones were built well and lasted; modern ones are very suspect. I would guess the Caddy will wear every bit as well as the Euros. American quality has gone up while Euro quality has gone down; I think they are very close to equal in the same price range. JMO
OTOH I think the Caddy is ugly!
Apart from pesky electronics, any MB or BMW will outlast the Caddy day in, day out. In terms of overall design and construction, there is no way a Caddy can ever be compared to a MB or BMW or for that matter an Audi. If CR reports are anything to go by, MBs don't have engine issues in general, they are horribly let down by the electronics controlling the engine and ancillaries.

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Old 08-27-2008, 08:47 PM
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I had read in a recent Car & Driver magazine that the Caddy's handling was honed on the Nordschlief track at the Nurburgring, and it posted times that outran the M5. One more impressive stat after the other. If the car is that fast, I'd love to see what The Stig could do with it on Top Gear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXVI33aqfWk&feature=user

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Don't rust out to trade in the M5 or E63, just yet....
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:08 PM
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I always knew that Americans can make good fast cars. The corvette proves this. The problem with the vette that is that it addresses handling by throwing out any sort of dampening ability so it's quite a horrible car to drive on regular roads.
A fair charge on pre-C5 Corvettes; I'm less convinced it's an issue on newer models.
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:09 PM
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Don't rust out to trade in the M5 or E63, just yet....
OK I sat through about 2 1/2 minutes of that; what does it have to do with Caddys, BMW's or Mercs?
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Apart from pesky electronics, any MB or BMW will outlast the Caddy day in, day out.
That's like saying that apart from getting that pesky new hole in his head, Lincoln really had a good time at the Ford Theater.
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:13 PM
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My first car in HS was a T/A with W56 suspension, that thing would skittle over ruts in the road even when dry with stock Goodyear Eagle.
I recall test-driving a nearly-new '76 Trans-Am. Driving over expansion strips was not for the faint of chiropractor.
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:16 PM
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OK I sat through about 2 1/2 minutes of that; what does it have to do with Caddys, BMW's or Mercs?
Its a review of the CTSV? They did race it with an RS4.
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No Hat, it's country music in an old barn. Bah!
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:52 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhQb2wJVPTg

Next time I'll check the link!
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:55 PM
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That isn't even the new CTS.

GM's latest cars have been pretty good.

I don't really care that much about performance numbers though. Just hype until you get in one and drive.
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Now, you just wait a darn minute, young fella . . .!
Uhh... I think I'm older than you little feller...

More experienced also I think. Just guessing...
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:11 PM
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:13 PM
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Yes Tom, an LS6 from a Z06 Corvette, rated at 405 hp. Responds very well to forced induction, and I don't mean Lance.
What's the weight difference of the Corvette vs the CTS-V? Does that engine have more torque in the CTS-V? It seems like it would.
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:06 PM
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The new CTS-V will have more torque (550 ft-lbs) than the Z06 (400 ft-lbs) but the Z06 is 1000 pounds lighter. They've done a great job keeping their sports car light unlike the Germans and the Japanese.
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First Cadillac CTS-V performance test published

The CTS-V ran the quarter-mile in a scant 12.5 seconds, besting the 12.7 it takes for either the BMW M5 or the Mercedes E63 AMG. Getting back to a standstill was another hit to the Bimmer and the Benz, with the Caddy stopping from 60-0 mph in 109 feet – five feet less than it takes the M5 and six shorter than the AMG. And if you're thinking that brakes and power are easy to upgrade and that the Cadillac couldn't possibly best the Germans on the handling course, think again: the CTS-V ran the slalom at 71.1 mph, while the M5 and E63 ran it in 68.5 and 65 mph respectively.
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