Dismembering "Intelligent" Design - Page 7 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Matt L · #91 09-11-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by raymr

I realize that I've been misinformed about a few aspects of the Theory of Evolution. It only goes to show that people can often read or hear propaganda over time, and interpret it as fact.

You and probably 95% of the country. People are against something that doesn't exist.

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So what does anyone make of the term 'irreducible complexity'? Here is some interesting reading (IMO) with pros and cons.

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/nhmag.html

Irreducible complexity means, "we can't see a way for these structures to have been built, therefore it is not possible." That statement also says, "I know it all. **** you!"

Matt L · #92 09-11-2008, 12:16 PM

The offer is genuine?

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Originally Posted by bbail2x2

Matt L

and its not Ham thats in jail its Dr. Kent Hovind. (get a clue?) thats what happens when you fight with the IRS. and yes the offer has stood for a long time with no takers. if you are sure of your evidence try it out. You and F.I. can get together and show them what you have and walk away with $250 big ones. I may not be the smartest guy about creationism but you will be had with someone who does know. you won't stand a chance trying to prove a lie to a real scientist.

You won't stand a chance to prove evolution to someone who has closed his mind and wrapped it in pieces of the Bible.

I have read that piece of literature many times. Probably more than you. I do not see where the Bible says that we didn't evolve, although both Ham and Hovind do. They think they're smarter than me, but they're both idiots.

The Bible is great for rolling cigarettes. That thin paper burns very nicely.

aklim · #93 09-11-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt L

The offer is genuine?

The Bible is great for rolling cigarettes. That thin paper burns very nicely.

From a guy in prison? I'm sure it is. If you write to Jailhousebabes.com, I'm sure you can find true love too. I wouldn't but feel free.

Ink burns and gives a funny taste. But in any case if you can steal it from the hotels so it is a push.

bbail2x2 · #94 09-11-2008, 01:22 PM

Matt L
quote"The Bible is great for rolling cigarettes. That thin paper burns very nicely. "

aklim · #95 09-11-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bbail2x2

Matt L
quote"The Bible is great for rolling cigarettes. That thin paper burns very nicely. "

Only IF what you are saying is true. Otherwise, it won't matter.

bbail2x2 · #96 09-11-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll

I think you are badly misinformed.

FYI. Piltdown man was a fake. But it was science that identified it as such.
Nebraska man was never regarded as anything to do with human origins by most of the scientfic community. And Lucy is not a fake.

Your capacity for infinite credulity is staggering.

- Peter.

if you read my post I said Nebraska man, Piltdown man, Lucy were all frauds. From Nebraska man they made him and his wife only to find out later what they had was the tooth from a pig. Lucy was supposed to be the transitional fossil, parts found hundreds of feet apart and at a deeper level, with no feet I might add, yet they always show Lucy with human feet in the museums. Piltdown man was out and out fraud. why is evolution in need of frauds and fakes so much.
like I said, its a moral decision, not an intellectual one.

kerry · #97 09-11-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bbail2x2

like I said, its a moral decision, not an intellectual one.

Please elaborate. " I found a fossil 15,000 yrs old." How can asserting such a claim be moral as opposed to non-moral?

crash9 · #98 09-11-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by raymr

Evolution denies the existence of a supreme being

I don’t know why not. Evolution may just be the tool of choice? Why must G-d be described as a being rather than an unknowable force.

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Originally Posted by bbail2x2

Ya know the Bible never changes.

Which one would that be? Just a huge area for study.

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Originally Posted by bbail2x2

The geologic column only exists in textbooks, not consistant in the earth, some older layers are overtop younger ones. should I go on?

Earthquakes come to mind, but please elaborate, this sounds like something I’d like to study a little bit.

We just don’t live in a theocracy. I won’t ask you to support my religious beliefs if you don’t try to make me accept yours. Many people believe what they read in WorldNetDaily or NewsMax and are not condemning those that don’t, but are just telling them the TRUTH.

pj67coll · #99 09-11-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bbail2x2

if you read my post I said Nebraska man, Piltdown man, Lucy were all frauds. From Nebraska man they made him and his wife only to find out later what they had was the tooth from a pig. Lucy was supposed to be the transitional fossil, parts found hundreds of feet apart and at a deeper level, with no feet I might add, yet they always show Lucy with human feet in the museums. Piltdown man was out and out fraud. why is evolution in need of frauds and fakes so much.
like I said, its a moral decision, not an intellectual one.

Normally one should attempt to debate issues on the merits. That is to say one should avoid personal ad hominem attacks and look at the evidence in each argument and attempt to weigh them up against each other. However their comes a point when it is obvious that the stupidity of the opponent is such that reasoned debate is not possible. Not for the first time when attempting to debate with a god nut I think that point has been reached. So I shall move on to more profitable activities.

- Peter.

Botnst · #**100** 09-11-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bbail2x2

if you read my post I said Nebraska man, Piltdown man, Lucy were all frauds. From Nebraska man they made him and his wife only to find out later what they had was the tooth from a pig. Lucy was supposed to be the transitional fossil, parts found hundreds of feet apart and at a deeper level, with no feet I might add, yet they always show Lucy with human feet in the museums. Piltdown man was out and out fraud. why is evolution in need of frauds and fakes so much......

I think you missed the point of science back in ... whenever. It is to explain physical reality in terms of physical reality. End of story.

Science is self-checking, self-correcting and always increases the body of knowledge, as you noted above (but probably don't acknowledge). Is religion?

B

#**101** 09-12-2008, 09:46 PM

I'm still waiting for an answer from you bbail.

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

How "moral" is murdering the first born child of every family in Egypt?

aklim · #**102** 09-12-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

I'm still waiting for an answer from you bbail.

How about "How moral is it to screw around with people and have them kill their son?"? Or "How moral is it to screw with people's lives to see how things turn out?"?