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t walgamuth · #16 11-21-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Bingo, thats the real message. If you question the mighty Hussein we will do everything in our power to destroy your life. We'll illegally search government records and splash your history around on the internet. The ends justify the means..Just a bunch of left wing thugs

....much worse than right wing thugs!

A264172 · #17 11-21-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress

Reminds of the Monty Python movie "Brazil."

You can't say that without a 27b/6.

Medmech · #18 11-21-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 450slcguy

If you choose to stand in the political spotlight, then be prepared to take the political heat. The lesson to be learned here is simple. Don't misrepresent yourself when the whole country is listening.

In other words if you have any questions do it anonymously. yea right

t walgamuth · #19 11-21-2008, 07:35 PM

I agree that if you get in the limelight you should be prepared for the heat, but that does not excuse abuse of power by governmental employees.

Chris Bell · #20 11-21-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

....much worse than right wing thugs!

No, about the same.

AustinsCE · #21 11-21-2008, 07:47 PM

All men equal, eh?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/21/obama.cell.breach/index.html

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Records from a cell phone used by President-elect Obama were improperly breached, apparently by employees of the cell phone company, Verizon Wireless said Thursday.
"This week we learned that a number of Verizon Wireless employees have, without authorization, accessed and viewed President-Elect Barack Obama's personal cell phone account," Lowell McAdam, Verizon Wireless president and CEO, said in a statement.

"All employees who have accessed the account -- whether authorized or not --- have been put on immediate leave, with pay."

The Obama transition team was notified Wednesday by Verizon of the breach, said team spokesman Robert Gibbs. He said the president-elect no longer uses the phone.

McAdam said the device on the account was a simple voice flip-phone, not a BlackBerry or other smartphone designed for e-mail or other data services, so none of Obama's e-mail could have been accessed.

Verizon Wireless, meanwhile, has launched an internal probe to determine whether Obama's information was simply shared among employees or whether "the information of our customer had in any way been compromised outside our company, and this investigation continues," McAdam said in an internal company e-mail obtained by CNN.

"Employees with legitimate business needs for access will be returned to their positions, while employees who have accessed the account improperly and without legitimate business justification will face appropriate disciplinary action," McAdam said, "up to and including termination."

The company has alerted "the appropriate federal law enforcement authorities," McAdam said.

Gibbs said that while the Secret Service has been notified, he is not aware of any criminal investigation. He said he believes it was billing records that were accessed.

Gibbs said that anyone viewing the records likely would have been able to see phone numbers and the frequency of calls Obama made, but that "nobody was monitoring voicemail or anything like that."

t walgamuth · #22 11-21-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

No, about the same.

Now there's one thing we agree on!

450slcguy · #23 11-21-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Howitzer

In other words if you have any questions do it anonymously. yea right

Joe asked a question and Obama answered his question. It was Joe who choose to take the microphone to the national media and beyond. Once he did that, he opened himself up to national scrutiny, and rightfully so.

He could have faded away into oblivion by declining further comment, but he didn't. He willingly choose to participate in the charade instituted by the McCain machine. People naturally wanted to know who this guy was, thus the questions and controversy followed.

In the end, I'm sure Joe made out quite well for his efforts. He was not a victim, more like a willing participant.

Honus · #24 11-21-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Bingo, thats the real message. If you question the mighty Hussein we will do everything in our power to destroy your life. We'll illegally search government records and splash your history around on the internet. The ends justify the means..Just a bunch of left wing thugs

Overreact much?

Chris Bell · #25 11-22-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dculkin

Overreact much?

No I don't overreat. Thugs are thugs.
In fact here are some more left wing thugs using the same tactics. In a city full of left wing thugs.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/21/INOQ147155.DTL

Honus · #26 11-22-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

No I don't overreat. Thugs are thugs.
In fact here are some more left wing thugs using the same tactics. In a city full of left wing thugs.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/21/INOQ147155.DTL

You are right about the people mentioned in that sfgate.com article. They are thugs, but they have nothing to do with your previous comment, which was:

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Bingo, thats the real message. If you question the mighty Hussein we will do everything in our power to destroy your life. We'll illegally search government records and splash your history around on the internet. The ends justify the means..Just a bunch of left wing thugs.

I don't see how the behavior of the knuckleheads who pried into Joe the Plumber's affairs or the anti-Proposition 8 thugs in California provide a basis for suggesting that Obama supporters are more likely to use improper methods to attack their political opponents. That is where I think you are overreacting to the Ohio story.