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Old 11-22-2008, 08:08 AM
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Tyranny comes in small doses, for what its worth my Dem friends are extremely pissed at the Dem camp regarding the Joe the plumber.
I agree with them.

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Old 11-22-2008, 08:15 AM
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I agree with them.
Like them you are hard wired to look beyond the political party and understand the severity of the offenses.


When it comes down to the core of the matter I believe that the core fundamental of a free society is right to speak out against ones government, if that is impeded in anyway the system will fail, flag burners come to mind; personally I hate them but I do respect their right to protest.
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:15 AM
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Do you have anything to contribute other than Repubs do it too?

No?

Didn't think so.
If you think I think its ok you misunderstand me. Its not ok for either side.
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:16 AM
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how creative.
I intended it to be a funny response to a rant.
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:42 AM
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The repubs have their share of tyrannical thugs.
So does that make it OK? Im sure you support what they did to Joe the plumber but try to make a better argument in support of it.
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:33 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iStZAbf47FA

Apparently not just a civil matter.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76308

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A team of Obama-supporting prosecutors and sheriffs in Missouri is preparing to pursue legal challenges to any presidential campaign ads deemed to be false or misleading.

KMOV-TV in St. Louis reports District Attorney Robert McCulloch, a past president of the National District Attorneys Association, said that whether the ads could be attributed to an opponent's campaign itself, or another organization, "If they're not going to tell the truth, somebody's got to step up and say, 'That's not the truth. This is the truth.'"

The effort appeared to be part of a move by the Obama campaign to block advertisements to which it objects. The campaign also sent "threatening" letters to several news agencies in Pennsylvania and Ohio demanding they stop airing ads exposing Obama's gun stance, according to the National Rifle Association...

The KMOV report said the Obama campaign asked members of Missouri's law enforcement to target anyone who "lies" or issues misleading television ads. Formation of the Obama "Truth Squad" was the result, the report said.

McCulloch declined to return a call from WND seeking comment.

The KMOV report said the campaign was being conducted by McCulloch and another prosecutor, Jennifer Joyce, along with a number of sheriffs throughout the state...
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:53 AM
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Why do people say Joe the plumber asked a question? He made a statement.
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What is Obama's position on this? I wonder if he punished the people affiliated with has campaign that knowingly used confidential information for political gain.
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Why do people say Joe the plumber asked a question? He made a statement.
How dare he

People should just shut up.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:02 AM
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I'm sure the defend Obama at any cost camp will have an explanation for that one.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:21 AM
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I'm sure the defend Obama at any cost camp will have an explanation for that one.
I know, it doesn't exist. It's just my interpretation. Maybe if I started dealing with reality.
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Why do people say Joe the plumber asked a question? He made a statement.
Wrong. His statement ended with the question "Doesn't it". Was Joe really getting ready to buy that company? Watch the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUvwKVvp3-o
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:10 PM
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McCain should have vetted Joe. Get into politics and your past is
fair game. Sure it was wrong for state computers to be used but
the media should have been able to check his background and find
all this out.

Let the Gov collect information on us and it can be abused: Patriot act

Trooper gate seemed like a more serious abuse of power, someone lost their
job for personal payback.
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:39 PM
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So does that make it OK? Im sure you support what they did to Joe the plumber but try to make a better argument in support of it.
please see post #33.
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:42 PM
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When it comes down to the core of the matter I believe that the core fundamental of a free society is right to speak out against ones government, if that is impeded in anyway the system will fail, flag burners come to mind; personally I hate them but I do respect their right to protest.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. Except the part about hating flag burners. I just think they are silly and disrespectful.

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