http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27955316/

Whoa . . .

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Reporting from Palm Desert and Los Angeles --

Most shoppers headed to the Toys R Us in Palm Desert on Friday morning clutching their "door buster" ads and their shopping lists. At least two men walked into the busy store armed with their guns.

Instead of the usual frantic chaos on Black Friday, the year's busiest shopping day, mayhem erupted in the electronics department about 11:30 a.m., leaving two men dead in a gunfight and crowds of shoppers ducking for cover.

Joan Barrick, 40, of Desert Hot Springs said she was buying a Barbie Jeep for her daughter when two women started brawling. As the women swung at each other, the men they were with also started arguing.

The younger of the two lifted up his shirt and flashed his handgun, pulling the grip from his baggy pants pocket. The other man yanked out his own handgun and started chasing him down the aisle and firing, witnesses said.
Barrick hid behind a stack of DVDs and recited the Lord's Prayer. "If I'm going to die, I need to make peace," she said. "A lot of people were crying. I was crying. We were all very, very scared."

As the two men ran shooting through the aisles, shoppers dumped their purchases. LaToya Jenkins, 20, had already bought a remote-control bike. She dropped it and ran. Others left behind shopping carts full of the bargain-priced toys they had come in search of.

Several witnesses saw the gunmen clearly. Some cried out warnings: "He has a gun!" and "¡Pistola! ¡Pistola!" Barrick was so close she could see the smoking gun.

"This is horrible," said a shaken Sara Frahm, 25. "I'm never shopping on Black Friday again."

Clarisa Valerio, 45, of Thermal said that when the man first brandished his gun, she heard him threaten to kill the other. She didn't believe it was real. "Since we were in a toy store, I thought it was a toy gun," Valerio said in Spanish. "My husband pushed me and said: 'Let's go. Didn't you hear what he said?' "

As her husband started heading to safety, Valerio turned back when she remembered that her daughter, 18, was still checking on the price of a toy car set. The shooting started almost immediately.

"I was hysterical," Valerio said. "This man pushed me to the ground. He put his arms around me and his disabled wife and held me."

Riverside County sheriff's officials declined to release the names of the dead men, whose bodies were found near the front of the store. Police retrieved handguns on the floor near both of them.

"These guys ran into each other, they squared off against each other, they killed each other," said Sheriff's Capt. Daniel Wilham. "It's a miracle that these were the only two people killed, given it was a crowded toy store."

Wilham said it appeared there was some "previous hostility" between the two couples.

Even after the shooting, one woman was still screaming angrily. In raw video footage posted on the website for KESQ-TV Channel 3, the woman is being handcuffed and led to a police car. "I'm going to . . . kill you right now!" she shouted, slamming her fists on the car. "I'm going to kill you! Yeah, you!"

Toys R Us officials released a statement saying they were "outraged by the act of violence . . . and by the fact that anyone would compromise the safety and security of our customers and employees.

"Our understanding is that this act seems to have been the result of a personal dispute between the individuals involved. Therefore, it would be inaccurate to associate the events of today with Black Friday," the statement said.

In the first moments after the shooting subsided, the store became eerily quiet. Some people remained frozen in their tracks. Others tried to find the friends and family they had become separated from. Dozens of shoppers poured out a back emergency exit and fled to the nearest havens: a Jiffy Lube and a World Gym.

Saul Diaz, an assistant manager at Jiffy Lube, said a stampede of about 45 people ran into the store, a few distraught and crying. "They were running fast, straight into the car bays," he said. "There was a couple of ladies with little kids, about 3 years [old]. They were all pale. The kids were shouting, 'Mom, I'm scared.' "

One crying woman walked into the gym with an infant cradled in her arms.

Outside Pizza Hut, where witnesses were being interviewed, 3-year-old Landon Stitt sat on the grass munching on his pizza. He spoke matter-of-factly, almost as if he was describing a video game.

"I saw it," he said. "They were fighting. They were shooting." He shaped his fingers into a gun, then fired into the air.

As night fell, the coroner's office had still not removed the bodies from the store. But authorities said they expected Toys R Us to be open for business this morning

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The 2nd amendment gives rights.

Nobody has responsibilities.


Everybody STFU.

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"Wal-Mart Stores Inc., based in Bentonville, Ark., called the incident a "tragic situation" and said the employee came from a temporary agency and was doing maintenance work at the store."

So what was he doing opening the store? Seems walmart has quickly washed it's hands of this matter. "send a basket of fruit to the family" Not our fault, not our problem, not our employee.

http://www.thugreport.com/

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I don't know about you but on the back of my insurance card is a warning to the reader not to admit fault, etc, etc, etc. If Wal*Mart even squeaked a word that said they were responsible, there is the other part of the equation that will have all kinds of lawsuits going on. So, I think they did the right thing by washing their hands off the matter. "You think I am wrong, you come get me and prove it in court." Maybe you might think it is uncompassionate, wrong, yada, yada, yada but that is the world we live in today. It's all about me covering my butt since I am not sure that you won't be trying to stick something up me if I apologize, express too much sympathy, etc, etc.

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For Walmart employee's are nothing but a dispossible line item expense. They are treated accordingly.

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It's not only the 2nd amendment. It is everything else. I hear of pedestrian rights but never a squeak about pedestrian responsibilities for instance. Everybody talks of rights but not responsibilities.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Something similar happened at the Alameda County (Oakland and vicinity) fair here about 8 years ago. Some guy felt like he'd been disrespected and started shooting at the culprit. Couple of people wounded, hundreds freaked out and pissed off. Weird stuff.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/11/28/2008-11-28_worker_dies_at_long_island_walmart_after.html

Yeah, what else can I add?

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You know, this happens every year at some Walmart. My friend is a Sheriff here in So Cal. He used to patrol an area with one Walmart. 2 years ago, he was called on the morning of black friday because the rent-a-cops were being pushed aside by the local thugs and cutting in front of people. So when they get there, they direct the thugs to the back of the line. Words were exchanged of course. But as soon as the doors open, the thugs run to the front of the line, totally disregarding him and the RACs. No sooner than that happening, a few minutes afterwards, people are being trampled and there's a melee at the rear of the store for the $300 laptops. So my buddy and his partner get there and there's an older lady on the floor with a fat lip writhing in pain. Her daughter is freaking out. Turns out that there were only so many laptops and there were fights breaking out. The lady said (and confirmed by watching the store surveillance cam video) that she got one of those laptops, but some POS decked her. After that, she didnt remember much. What the vid did reveal though was once she get decked and lost grip of the laptop, about 4 - 5 people dove for the laptop, fighting for it like a fumble on a football field. No one except the daughter tried to help.

People are truly messed up.

They need to come up with a sort of raffle like setup, where the rights to buy the discounted, limited supply, item is calmly determined in a drawing about an hour after opening and the winner can pick it up later. This wild scrum business is whack.

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Please tell me whatinthehell is in a WalMart that's worth rushing the door for or, even going to the stupid place?

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You deal with cattle,these poor,ignorant saps are the same,only they try to walk on 2 legs and generally leave death,damnation and stark stupidity in their wake.

Eugenics 101 anyone?????

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