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Old 12-19-2008, 08:04 PM
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I think you probably got an oddball german. I have run into some real oddballs here from time to time trying to buy things.
I am generally pretty tolerant, but 3 different guys? I will grin and bear but I must say it was a surprise compared to the guys I work with from Europe. I wish one of those guys was a car entusiast, but most ride bicycles to work

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Old 12-19-2008, 11:17 PM
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Hmmmm. 3?

Maybe not such an oddball occurance.
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:59 PM
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Hmmmm. 3?

Maybe not such an oddball occurance.
It's not an oddball coincidence.
I speak French as well as a native after 45 years of study and am often taken for a Swiss citizen, because the French know I speak German. They also know I'll tell them to get ****** in their own language if they give me ****.

Germans have always had a great work ethic and produce great products especially when compared to Italians and other groups. This has given them a sense of superiority. However, when they leave Europe, they are so insulated that they rarely succeed in business that involves manufacturing or retail unless iot's like in a store. Don't believe me? How come they managed Chrysler so badly? Answer: they don't know how to manage, especially on the fly. It's been bred out of them when the Allies occupied them. They just know how to do what they do in their own environment.

I had a BMW 525i and the guys there were honest. They even pro-rated a mistake they made and refunded me money!
I bought the mechanics two bottles of champagne for Christmas and the Parts manager gave me a tie of the Bimmer rack!

Two fast stories:

I went to an organic foods store in Grmany to ask about a tea for a friend's wife. The woman was very cold and snapped at me, because I asked what she considered an obvious question. So I got back at her: I asked her if the other product contained osmium or was it osmium free, like high fructose corn syrup free etc. She couldn't answer (not surprisingly). So, in front of the other customers, I said in German," Well, if you can't tell me if there's osmium in it, I don't want it, thanks (always say thanks). Then ther people started asking her: Does THIS have osmium? It isn't marked." Osmium is a rare element most people never see in their lives. But it attacked her competence in her own shop, and soon she was beleaguered by others (Germans).

In another instance, these people promised to get a reppair done and I even came in a day later. Still not done. I left my phone number to call me. Promised the next day. Still not done. I finally asked for it back. They wanted me to pay. I told them it wasn't fixed, what would I pay for? They got nasty and said they would report me to the cops. I told them I would report them for two crimes: fraud and working like Italians.
That pissed off the old guy. Then I killed hi: Kein Wunder, Du den Krieg verloren hast..." No wonder you lost the war...."

It's always fun to give the arroganmt ones their comeuppance.

You just need practice in finding them.
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:57 AM
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Germans can be strange by our standards for sure!

I had a couple of odd things happen while driving in Germany thirty some years ago (maybe not odd but perhaps characteristically German):

1. I was entering the autobahn and ahead of me on the entrance/ acceleration ramp a car was crawling along. I just swung over and passed it on the inside shoulder (plenty of room no issue there). The driver honked madly at me.....I thought...WTF? I am supposed to stay behind someone crawling on an entry ramp? Germans are very very much into following the rules to the letter.

2. Another time I was in heavy traffic in my clapped out but fine running 59 VW. It had a hole in the muff and was fairly loud. A german came up beside me and said ...."You should fix your muffler....etc.". I said...."Thank you"....and thought "WTF, if I had money to fix it I would, but I was a penniless college student trying to see the old world and its lovely Architecture. Running a loud muff was against the law there.

Running a car with safety weaknesses is verboten too. I had an acquaintance who was pulled over and his car impounded because it had a bald tire.

And if a car has any rust that is unfixed it will be taken off the road and you either fix it or you cannot run it there. At that time the rusty ones could be exported to other countrys where the road laws were not so strict, like Italy.

I am mostly German ancestry but I find the attitudes perplexing. I do share some of the characteristics of the ancestors but am uniquely American in many ways too.

I always say "the best Germans immigrated to the US".
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:56 PM
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:20 PM
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If you can wait until after the New Year, I will ask my buddy Oilver to act as a go-between. He is in Stuttgart and would probably be able to negotiate with German sellers for you.
If not, my friend Sonya will b*tch them out for you
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:18 PM
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You just need practice in finding them.
Keep practicing.
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:21 PM
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... How come they managed Chrysler so badly?
Because nobody over here knows how to make things right. Practically unmanagable.
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:31 PM
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Germans can be strange by our standards for sure!

I had a couple of odd things happen while driving in Germany thirty some years ago (maybe not odd but perhaps characteristically German):

1. I was entering the autobahn and ahead of me on the entrance/ acceleration ramp a car was crawling along. I just swung over and passed it on the inside shoulder (plenty of room no issue there). The driver honked madly at me.....I thought...WTF? I am supposed to stay behind someone crawling on an entry ramp? Germans are very very much into following the rules to the letter.

2. Another time I was in heavy traffic in my clapped out but fine running 59 VW. It had a hole in the muff and was fairly loud. A german came up beside me and said ...."You should fix your muffler....etc.". I said...."Thank you"....and thought "WTF, if I had money to fix it I would, but I was a penniless college student trying to see the old world and its lovely Architecture. Running a loud muff was against the law there.

Running a car with safety weaknesses is verboten too. I had an acquaintance who was pulled over and his car impounded because it had a bald tire.".
It's not strange. It's accuracy and precision. You want to drive a high powered car on a high speed autobahn, you better be in top shape. If you can't afford a tire, don't drive a car. Anything below those standards, is a risk to the public.

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I am mostly German ancestry but I find the attitudes perplexing. I do share some of the characteristics of the ancestors but am uniquely American in many ways too..
Ancestry doesn't vouch for integrity. It's not perplexing. Germans are a tribe. If you're not one of them, don't bother.

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I always say "the best Germans immigrated to the US".
That's your home made philosophy, Tom. The best Germans, if there is such a creature, from the generation before us wouldn't set a foot on US soil. That's the way I've learned it.
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:36 PM
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dayum, ...
I am trying to line up the thread headline with your attempt to get your part order in...?
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:00 PM
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That pissed off the old guy. Then I killed hi: Kein Wunder, Du den Krieg verloren hast..." No wonder you lost the war...."
Did you fight and win the war?
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:18 PM
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:28 PM
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That was Guenther Netzer commenting on the Jersey show ...

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Pretty funny. As it shows "humor" is something often argued and disputed. For the simple reason, Germans prefer to keep it inside, unless the are certain to be in private.

I am a pretty humorous person, I am urged to cut it, on almost any given day.
If I don't, I am being slandered, for presenting my humor and subsequent commentaries.

There is just as much jealousy coming along with good humor. Why? Because many can't take fact, that they aren't as witty ....

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Old 12-20-2008, 07:42 PM
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Germans have a great sense of humor, that's why we did sent Rudi Carrell to Germany...

I was just joking, I've been with a german girl for seven years and I know they have humor, sort of humor, just different.
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:02 PM
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IThen I killed hi: Kein Wunder, Du den Krieg verloren hast..." No wonder you lost the war...."

all you were getting was 40s years worth of this getting rubbed in thier noses back at you. especially thanks to the last 8 years.

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