Hannity is Limbaugh's biggest and most successful imitator. They might as well be joined at the hip. The Hannitizer rep goes out of his way to praise Limbaloney every chance he gets. "The leader of the conservative movement" etc.

Off topic. Uh, yeah, right.

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This is you in a nutshell. The gentlepersons I referenced in the OP are completely out in la-la land. Your conclusion is that anyone who notes this and the fact that a large body of Americans take their marching orders from them has their panties in a bunch. End of story.

I can picture Hannity, upon hearing from a friend that a doctor told him his liver is in bad shape, and treatment is needed urgently, asking who the doctor is. Then upon doing a web search and making a few calls announces, "Oh hey, you got nothing to worry about. The guy is a liberal (snicker)."

Come back to us Botnst, the country could use good men at this time . . . with their wits about them, that is.

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It amuses me that people such as yourself place such importance on entertainers. Whether it is Charleton Heston with his gun or Tim Robbins and his goofy wife or that girlie band from Texas or Rush ****** Limbaugh, it mystifies me that anybody gives a crap what they say. But like a stick that can be used as a tool to stir-up a nest of like-thinking ants, so can those jokers be used in America for ant-brained people who can't see beyond the latest headline.

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Entertainer? That's the usual dodge, and about the 3rd or 4th time I've heard it from you. The guy, Limbaugh, is the spiritual, intellectual (abuse of language penalty) leader of the Republican party. And Hannity is the main Lord in waiting. Limber may not have much influence over demos but w/o much effort he could unseat the impudent Gingrey, as many Repubs jump to his tune.

And one of the guys in the OP used to be Speaker of the House and still has a fair amount of influence in the GOP. Nominal outsider Sarah Palin has been schooled by his PAC's leadership grooming detail since around 2005. I mean, I didn't see it happen, but evidence has been found to that end.

I'm not just calling those guys out but the whole rightie mindset. One regularly hears from this crowd that the entire problem with bank meltdowns is owing to the gubmint forcing banks to give mortgages to poor people who shouldn't have gotten them.

No problem with the free market bankers who thought that having some $50 trillion in credit default swaps circulating about or mortgages aggressively sold by short term hucksters to anyone warm and vertical to then be slipped into mortgage backed securities to be sold for real money to any fool who would buy them was a good way to go. No, it's not free market, private sector crooks -- unregulated -- it's LIBERALs who are at fault. End of story.

A problem identified, accurately, is a problem half solved.

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Common cmac2012! You're losing control of your own thread. You're in the "name-calling" mode...slow down and stop frothing at the corners of the mouth...take a deep breath and come on back in to the post slowly...

Yep, there ya' go...feel better?

We're having a discussion here...nothing else...nobody is passing laws or tossing babies over the railing...

See ya' in a few!!!

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Master of puppets Im pulling your strings
Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams
Blinded by me, you cant see a thing
Just call my name, `cause Ill hear you scream
Master
Master
Just call my name, `cause Ill hear you scream
Master
Master

Needlework the way, never you betray
Life of death becoming clearer
Pain monopoly, ritual misery
Chop your breakfast on a mirror


Master, master, wheres the dreams that Ive been after?
Master, master, you promised only lies
Laughter, laughter, all I hear and see is laughter
Laughter, laughter, laughing at my cries

Hell is worth all that, natural habitat
Just a rhyme without a reason
Neverending maze, drift on numbered days
Now your life is out of season

[chorus]
[fade out with evil laughter].

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I'm sorry man, Limbaugh and Hannity have been demonizing people they disagree with for a long time. The Botster wants to have it that they're entertainers. Was Goebbels an entertainer?

The hard right talkies deal out some pretty harsh condemnation on their preferred scapegoats and yet don't have the balls for any actual debate. Hannity has this 'hate Hannity' hotline now where people can call in and vent. He then picks out the 'creme de la crazies' to play excerpts from on his TV show. He does about the same thing on his radio show. I've only gotten on once after having gotten through to the screeners 5 times or more, I forget exactly.

They want the irrational screamers for the liberal callers they put on the air. I've heard them. And then Hannity snickers about what rubes and hillbillies those dang liberals are.

I'll rest when those guys are hauling debris on construction sites -- it's not too late for them to make a worthwhile contribution to the world.

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Stick, here is thine ant.

And a problem only half identified will remain forever only half solved.

- Peter.

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So what? Where is the lefts equivalent? Why is it that the right excells at talk radio while the left bombs? There must be sufficient left leaning folks in the populace that a Limbaugh equivalent from that angle would be just as successfull no? So what's the problem? Where are they? Or is the lefts message so utterly repugnant to the majority of the citizenry that it will never fly on the air? Or is it simply that the left so completely dominates the visual media that the right finds it's voice only thru radio?

- Peter.

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Let me ask you this...Goebbels was working for his Government, wasn't he? His paycheck (and his life) depended on HIM doing what Adolf wanted...and I'm sure he had his detractors...

Gingrich gets FREE press...he's not out there on "GOVERNMENT" radio or TV...he's on the free air-waves.

If what he says isn't what the American people want to hear...he'd be slinging hash at a local "Park & Barf" along I-95 somewhere out East...but he's not.

As for Hannity and Rush...same thing...only they're not drawing any Government checks (that I'm aware of), they're pulling in the dough the American way...

They put out a product that someone wants to buy.

Just 'cause I hated what Al Franken said and did, I didn't get my dander all lathered up and demand that he be pulled off the air or have a "rail" run up his rear...and when he started "Air America" - I sat back and waited for the mid-air collision that was bound to happen...a wayward word-pilot (my interpretation) and sponsors...they didn't meet on common ground and "Air America" ran out of fuel, fell from the air, crashed and burned...Commercialism grounded "Air America." Not Rush or Hannity...free-speech and non-Government-regulated speech did that...

Why would we want to silence anyone? Don't you want to know what the other side it thinking? How can you possibly even guess what they're about or believe if you want TOTAL silence on their part? It only makes your side of an argument look Draconian in that you're appearing to be wanting the control of all aspects of thoughts and speech...

Let that be what 3rd-worlders are about.

IMO, the reason the MAJORITY (That word still means something to folks out here, East of Berkeley.) of the folks that want to come to the United States is that here, in the United States, we still have the ability to express our thoughts (sometimes ), rile up a few folks now and then and every once in a while, manage to contain our enthusiasm, just enough, to get out a few cognitive thoughts without tripping over a brain-stem in the process, and the "Thought Police" don't come in and rain down on us with batons and night-sticks.

Let's keep it that way...for as long as we can...

Besides, without the Left, what would be Right? (Pun intended.)

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McCain hired Karl Rove's ex-second in command to run his campaign after Rove retired, his most critical mistake that pushed his message too far to the right when the electorate was turning left - costing him the election as he moved his message to one of Right Wing Paranoia. The Rove guys probably knew it would cost dottering McCain the election, but it was the perfect opportunity to move Palin into the national spotlight for their planned future marketing campaign when the country's pendelum swings back.

It was Rove's guys idea to make Palin VP. Palin is typical of the Rove formula - find some controllable idiot that can be marketed as somthing they are not, most notably "competent", via a television camera and convince the millions of easily suckered rubes who inhabit Bubbaland to vote for him\her. Bush was never much more than an aw-shucks frontman for Rove, and Palin is more of the same. It is amusing to watch the uber-righties of The White People's Glorious Confederacy Christian Party once again fall for another incompent buffoon, hook, line and sinker.

McCains campain was too far to the left for me. I think most conservatives agree with that and it's what cost him the election. We'll never know for sure but It's my guess that if he was a conservative he would be president today.

No way. He'd have lost by an even larger margin.

- Peter.

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Which is why your faction, The White People's Southern Christian Party, is totally marginalized at this point. I am also at a loss at how this 'cost him the election', turnout among the far right was at record levels, and I doubt they voted for Obama. All analysis of the election show that what moved was the country's independent voters, turned off by "torture 'em while we love Jesus anti-immigrant extreme xenophobia gay hating War On A Noun" faction. They simply did not vote based on Swiftboats, or on the looming threat of democracy-threatening men who were having sex with each other that was so satisfying they wished to be married, which would of course destroy The Republic. Since those two great threats to The Republic were not concerns of the Vast Middle this time, the GOP lost. Perhaps when Christ returns, your power will come back, I hear he roots for you fellows.