The judge mentioned in the CNN column was not a judge when he participated in the torture memos. He was just a regular lawyer who might be facing disciplinary proceedings. AFAIK, the Bush administration's interrogation program had no judicial oversight.

If there is one thing he did right, that would be it.

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You sure you wouldn't be happy living in an actual dictatorship?

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If you believe this, then you believe Iran would be right in providing nuclear weapons to terrorists to wipe out Israel to protect its borders and its people.

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He was doing it to non-citizens who had some interest in our destruction. So no, I don't think it was wrong.

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He was doing it to non-citizens SOME of whom had some interest in our destruction.

Do you believe that every prisoner that has been subject to "alternative interrogation methods" has been someone a) interested in our destruction, b) having important information that, if known by us quickly, would save lives, and/or c) in a position to act upon their desire to see our destruction?

I do not believe that our otherwise excellent personnel in the heat of the situation were capable of 100% certainty as to who anyone was and what they knew or wanted to do.

I do not want our captured soldiers subjected to the same forms of interrogation. You may say they will be anyway, but by our actions we have removed all doubt.

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I'll just guess here, but of the soldiers that have been captured by Al Qaeda, most of them would accept a waterboard to have their head back.

Every country has the right to protect itself when under threat.

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Yes, probably and maybe. That is unless you believe that they simply subjected anyone and everyone to those methods simply because they had too much time on their hands. Now if you told me that each and everyone was subjected to that whether they thought there was info to be had or not, that might be a different story but I would think that the interrogators would have better things to do.

Thanx. I was dragging tail all day today and you just made me laugh. I don't know when you people will stop with that "Do unto others" crap but hopefully soon someday.

I think if you go back you will see that it was that way BEFORE any of these alternative methods were started. What doubt do you have that our soldiers will be accorded protections according to that stupid thing known as the Geneva Crap, I mean, conventions.

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How do you know that? Did you have John Edwards ask the beheaded or executed soldiers?

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One of the few things that I agreed with John McCain on. He's someone who's opinion on the treatment of prisoners of war should mean a lot more than yours or mine.

Sometimes the way we treat others has more to do with what we want from and for ourselves, rather than what we want to get from or do to others.

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Torturing individuals who we knew with certainty were involved with nefarious activities is one thing. Torturing individuals who were handed over to us in exchange for a 5K$ reward-- half a lifetime's salary over there --is something else again.

What scarce mention this receives in our media and the lack of public concern for it is appalling.

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Fat lot of good it did him. But he was very forgiving of the people and very cosy with them which is why I voted for Obama

Good one. If you can condense it so it fits into a fortune cookie, you can make money. Sorry, I'm not into all that high falutin stuff.

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John Edward was to busy getting head to speak coherently.