i'm trying to understand something here: when its waterboarding and a policy of the previous administration that you don't personally like, the results/information is suspect. but when there's no non-physical or mental torture involved and it fits your own political ideology, the information extracted from it is without reproach?

how do you know for sure?

my beef is this: dont take away any tools to extract information. cookies and the nice approach work for some, but not others.