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aklim · #31 06-11-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

That's not far off the mark. I spend some time at the Hannity forum website and they's a whole lotta hyperventilatin' goin' on over there.

Quite unlike the left here, isn't it?

aklim · #32 06-11-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Same thing at Glenn Beck's website, effin kook land on his blog. "Kill the cops first" for example - I wonder if this guy posted that. All the extreme language coming from the Talk Show Screamers is pushing these nutcases over the edge. That report was right on the money, the combination of a black president, a lousy economy, the failure and collapse of their political ideology, their inability to start a Gestapo-style anti-immigration solution has concocted a fertile environment for right wing violence. The continual portrayal of legally elected leaders as enemies worthy of death by Hannity et al means nothing but more of this, and not a word of "cool your jets" leadership from the new RNC, R.ush, N.ewt and C.heney. Funny, Newt was stirring the pot when the last act of mass murder from a typical talk radio listener, Tim McVeigh, went down.

Please educate us more about the perfect left. The ones that have no fault and are pure and innocent.

aklim · #33 06-11-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dculkin

What a knucklehead Wright is. Why would Obama have spent so much time with a guy like that? What value does he offer?

Makes you look good. Of course now that Obama doesn't need him, he is discarded like a used condom.

aklim · #34 06-11-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dculkin

I had Limbaugh on the radio a few minutes ago. He's working hard to make sure everyone understands that it is the Democrats and the DHS who are the ones spreading the hate in this situation and that this shooter was not influenced in any way by right wing hate speech. Limbaugh's "logic" was up to it's normal lofty standards

but my main reaction was that he was protesting a little too much.

Why not have Rev Wright tuned in too? Nice strategy. Pick on the most outlandish person on the side you don't like, demonize them and make that side look stupid. And yes, I believe you were just joking about that guy losing credibility because he has the "R" after his name.

What did you expect Rush to do? Wait for people like you to blame it on him? Oh, wait. Too late. Kirk V has already done that. Never mind.

aklim · #35 06-11-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tonkovich

as much as i despise the right wing talk shows and tv, i think you can't really blame them for all this. no one would be that easily prompted to go shoot and kill, just from listening and watching. the media might be the proverbial "straw that breaks the camel's back", but it's kind of hard to prove. these last two shooters both seem like whack jobs; both these clowns have records going back a long way - the kansas guy at least ten, twelve years, and the d.c. guy back to the early '80's.

There are always "reasons" why people snap. That is why we have mindfawks. To find excuses for bad behavior. Who knows what was building up inside him and what that final straw was. But even if we could reel back time and take away that final straw, what happens when another straw comes along? These people are a step away from snapping. Nothing we can do about it.

aklim · #36 06-11-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

they are beyond the scope of talk radio.....one would need to sift through the hate sites on the internet to find what these guys were into...

Those are only the tip of the iceberg. Most of them are not sophisticated enough to do that. You'd have to sift thru all the underground presses, word of mouth and what not.

Honus · #37 06-11-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Why not have Rev Wright tuned in too? Nice strategy. Pick on the most outlandish person on the side you don't like, demonize them and make that side look stupid.

What are you talking about? My comment was relevant to what MS Fowler said. And I only have one radio in my car, so I couldn't very well have tuned in Rush and Rev. Wright, even if Wright had a radio show.

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And yes, I believe you were just joking about that guy losing credibility because he has the "R" after his name.

Well, you can take your

and put it where the sun don't shine.

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What did you expect Rush to do? Wait for people like you to blame it on him? Oh, wait. Too late. Kirk V has already done that. Never mind.

Have a nice day.

Honus · #38 06-11-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

White supremist thought patterns are so far beyond what you would get on normal talk radio, it would almost seem like something from another planet. This guy would have hated Rush since Rush's call screener "Bo" Snerdly is black... These guys are in a world of hate so strong that you would be sickened by what you would hear...

I wouldn't argue with any of that. The part I find silly is how Limbaugh comes up with these contrived, dishonest arguments to try to blame Janet Napolitano. My comment was about Limbaugh, not the shooter.

aklim · #39 06-11-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dculkin

What are you talking about? My comment was relevant to what MS Fowler said. And I only have one radio in my car, so I couldn't very well have tuned in Rush and Rev. Wright, even if Wright had a radio show.

Well, you can take your

and put it where the sun don't shine.

Have a nice day.

My point was very simple. You take Rush, Rev Wright and what do you have? Two peas in a pod with 1 difference. That being that they are both of the same type of person but on opposite sides of the coin. Rush is about as representative of the right as Rev Wright is of Baptists. If you want to listen to Rush and say "Well, that is what the right wingers are.", I'm sure you could get a recording of Wright and conclude that Baptists believe that it is a Jewish conspiracy that is keeping Obama away from Wright. They are both nutballs. Very vocal ones but still nutballs. Either way, I can understand how using Rush to symbolize everything evil and painting the right makes it easy to say how wonderful the left is.

Since I am a nudist, the sun shines pretty much every where. Why don't you demonstrate using yourself?

Always do as long as it is a day above ground.

aklim · #40 06-11-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dculkin

I wouldn't argue with any of that. The part I find silly is how Limbaugh comes up with these contrived, dishonest arguments to try to blame Janet Napolitano. My comment was about Limbaugh, not the shooter.

Really? What a shocker. He is a talk show host on the right side of the aisle. That is what he does. That is the job description. He isn't even a politician. Just a big windbag. Here is the part I find silly. You spend days combing thru his rhetoric and grumble about it. As Cardinal Richleiu is supposed to have said "Give me six lines written by the most honorable of men, and I will find an excuse in them to hang him". I think you are trying to find something in what Rush is saying to hang the right with. You know that Rush has a slant on his show just like NPR has a slant. Why even bother with either of them?

JollyRoger · #41 06-11-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

White supremist thought patterns are so far beyond what you would get on normal talk radio, ........

Yeah right.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/why-are-media-ignoring-richard-popla

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JollyRoger · #42 06-11-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

they are beyond the scope of talk radio.....one would need to sift through the hate sites on the internet to find what these guys were into...

Yes, I am sure none of the Talk Radio guys would be talking about FEMA concentration camps, or "Is Obama the Anti-Christ", right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/05/glenn-beck-watch-is-oba_n_89983.html

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/17/foxs-glenn-beck-says.html

I'd post Michael Savage's even kookier ****, but it's common knowledge. Mark Levin, Hannity, they all insinuate more than come right out and say it, but their message is unmistakable: Obama is an enemy of the United States who has taken over the country. And then we have Limbaugh's veiled racism against "magic negroes". Right, I bet these Nazi nuts listen to CSPAN.

cmac2012 · #43 06-11-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Should we take preemptive action and simply export the right wingers out of the country or maybe to a concentration camp for re-education? Seems like everything is the right-wing's fault so maybe the left should be the only one around to keep an eye on things. I'll bet that the world will be peaceful after that.

Thank (insert deity here) for the sanity of the left wingers or the world would have split into two already.

S'funny how right wingers frequently complain about lefties trying to find moral equivalency while they bend over backward to claim that they are no more prone to extremism than lefties. Morallyequivalent. While there are lefty extremists, the right seems bent on painting themselves into a minority corner, political minority, with this business of purging moderates from their party.

They'll proudly state that they stand for freedom, FREEDOM!, but the POV is way to simplistic. The freedom to homestead 160 acres and do any damn thing you want with it does not exist any more. Anyone who assumes the right to let poison flow from their land onto someone else's is either going to wind up poorer, in jail, or shot these days.

That was Tom DeLay's motivation to get into politics: damned vahrnmentalists trying to tell him that he couldn't use certain poisons in people's houses. A serious abrogation of his FREEDOM.

A number of the foundation stones of the current right wing in the US are not workable, and the weakness that this has brought to righties has moved many of them to flail about wildly. It's ACORN that's behind this, I tell you!

aklim · #44 06-11-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Mark Levin, Hannity, they all insinuate more than come right out and say it, but their message is unmistakable: Obama is an enemy of the United States who has taken over the country. And then we have Limbaugh's veiled racism against "magic negroes". Right, I bet these Nazi nuts listen to CSPAN.

And the far left feels what? Admiration towards Bush Jr? Are you saying that if we looked hard enough we cannot find some lefties proclaiming the same thing about Bush? Oh, they are on your side of the aisle so we give them a pass, right? The Ku Klux Klan also claims to be christian based so what should we do with that?

cmac2012 · #45 06-11-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

And the far left feels what? Admiration towards Bush Jr? Are you saying that if we looked hard enough we cannot find some lefties proclaiming the same thing about Bush? Oh, they are on your side of the aisle so we give them a pass, right? The Ku Klux Klan also claims to be christian based so what should we do with that?

For the 18,000th time, Bushomon Jr. had approval ratings of 80% plus in late '01-'02. He got broad support (libtards included) until it became clear that he was an ambitious moron who didn't deserve support, period.

Lefties didn't hate him because he was a Repo, they hated him because he was an arrogant, clueless, chestbeater who talked down to Americans and foreigners who were his mental superiors. And whattayaknow: many conservatives eventually came around to that realization as well.