RNC Purity Testing Proposal - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

aklim · #31 01-27-2010, 01:02 AM

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We're a state of barely over a million residents, so in proportion, the "undocumented" population may be comparable to the rest of the nation.

The service providers are the ones that "eat the bills" and they are also the ones that get squeezed by the insurance reimbursement schedules.

Like I said, there are trade offs galore to get to the health benefits of having nearly universal coverage. Like I said, there are trade offs galore to get to the health benefits of having nearly universal coverage.

You don't think Hawaii is less attractive because of the greater difficulty getting there than it is to skip across the border? Just curious.

Who pass it on to others who can pay. IOW, I have to pay for some leach.

Not sure if you are trying to say that the trade off is a good thing or bad. IMO, it is a bad thing or a raw deal even if we consider it from the standpoint that we are making a new generation of people with the entitlement mentality.

MTI · #32 01-27-2010, 01:15 AM

Trade offs are seldom all good or all bad. To get greater insurance coverage, business foots the bill, but also benefits from having healthy workers since they have access to preventive care and diagnostic procedures.

tonkovich · #33 01-27-2010, 02:22 AM

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Trade offs are seldom all good or all bad. To get greater insurance coverage, business foots the bill, but also benefits from having healthy workers since they have access to preventive care and diagnostic procedures.

yes, the n.y.times article of a few weeks back suprisingly? noted a link between various improved survival rates from cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc., due perhaps? to all the preventative care/ early detection??? (call me dr. obvious) (for the record, emergency room visits in crisis time cost exponentially?? more than early detection/preventative etc. an ounce of .. is worth a pound of etc.)

MS Fowler · #34 01-27-2010, 06:34 AM

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Think that's odd . . . consider the healtcare plan in MA.

Hawaii's healthcare system, recently lauded by Rush himself, is a combination of employer subsidized (some 100%, others have an employee contribution) benefit for full time employees and their dependents and a state medicare/medicaid system for welfare recipients. Briefly, it does increase business costs, however it has resulted in uncrowded ERs and significant advances in wellness and longevity in the state. Tradeoffs galore.

Rush did praise the health care he rec'd in your State. However, he paid all his expenses himself, and did not take advantage of the health care SYSTEM.

MTI · #35 01-27-2010, 11:14 AM

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Rush did praise the health care he rec'd in your State. However, he paid all his expenses himself, and did not take advantage of the health care SYSTEM.

Does it matter who or how it was paid? The point being that the CARE he received, in a state with near universal coverage, was to to his standards.

aklim · #36 01-27-2010, 12:00 PM

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Does it matter who or how it was paid? The point being that the CARE he received, in a state with near universal coverage, was to to his standards.

He should know. Especially about the pharmaceutical end of things.

A druggie windbag's opinion doesn't impress me. OTOH, if he were a medical person, I'd be interested to know. This is like Tiger Woods endorsing Buick or Tag Heuer watches. WTF does he know about that? He is a golfer.

tonkovich · #37 01-27-2010, 12:16 PM

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He should know. Especially about the pharmaceutical end of things.

A druggie windbag's opinion doesn't impress me. OTOH, if he were a medical person, I'd be interested to know. This is like Tiger Woods endorsing Buick or Tag Heuer watches. WTF does he know about that? He is a golfer.

yes, i'd respect his opinion on prophylactics more.

back to the rnc; i do hope if they get ill they do not avail themselves of that kind of healthcare. i hope that's part of the purity test as well.

MS Fowler · #38 01-27-2010, 02:13 PM

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yes, i'd respect his opinion on prophylactics more.

back to the rnc; i do hope if they get ill they do not avail themselves of that kind of healthcare. i hope that's part of the purity test as well.

How nice!

aklim · #39 01-27-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tonkovich

yes, i'd respect his opinion on prophylactics more.

back to the rnc; i do hope if they get ill they do not avail themselves of that kind of healthcare. i hope that's part of the purity test as well.

I thought I heard that he had one oopsie. Not sure

Isn't that like either Rich or JR's argument of "If you don't support medicare, don't touch it when you are retired."?

tonkovich · #40 01-27-2010, 02:43 PM

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I thought I heard that he had one oopsie. Not sure

Isn't that like either Rich or JR's argument of "If you don't support medicare, don't touch it when you are retired."?

it's meant to be a bit absurd; principles taken to ridiculous lengths.

MS Fowler · #41 01-27-2010, 04:00 PM

This thread wants to draw a contrast that republicans have a "purity test" ( is that a loaded term, or what, while democrats have no similar "purity test".
PLEASE!
No democrat with a "right to life" position will ever advance to any level of power within the democrat party. They are not even allowed to address the convention.

All this hype about a purity test is nothing more than a tempest in a teapot. It will have zero effct on anyone.

MTI · #42 01-27-2010, 04:08 PM

Ever Google "Right to Life Democrat?"

Rep Bart Stupak did, somehow, manage to get 64 other House Dems to support his anti-abortion amendment to the House version of the healthcare legislation. Seems somewhat significant.

Isn't it odd that there seems to be less of a willingness of the "right to life" movement to embrace and support those Dems?