Absolutely correct.

One needs only look to the one party rule in Washington, D.C. Only 35% of Americans want government furnished healthcare. Tyranny, plain and simple.

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That's what happens when your enemy brings a knife to a gunfight, sorry.

“PLAYBOY: Did you consider becoming a party member prior to the Nazi-Soviet Pact?”

Did you inadvertently post the wrong information?

So according to your posted info, he wasn’t actually asked if he was a communist was he? He was only asked if he considered becoming a (Communist) party member prior to a particular event, correct?

He did say he was not a joiner, philosophically he rejected rigidity of dogma/ideology, that he “parted company with the Communists in the thirties and that’s where I stay parted from them today”.

Rule 3: "irrelevant arguments"

And of course;

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

Nice try.

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Another checkmate.

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That sounds accurate, there are many communists who are not Communists.

I see you're still stuck on trying to employ Alinsky's Rule 3 here...... LOL!

Rule 3: "seemingly irrelevant arguments"

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I'm not even arguing, it sounds like this guy was a social/labor activist (and probably a communist) who influenced some folks of Hillary's generation. Some people of my generation were influenced by the chicago 7 (or 8, depending who you ask) and others. I'm sure the current generation is being influenced by some activist that I've never heard off (if they stop playing video games long enough). Hopefully, the pattern will continue. So, what's the point of this tread?

That's what I keep asking. Alinsky is just an important left wing thinker, I've yet to see how he's some sort of bogey man. Just more evidence of the increasingly irrational right as they latch on to Glenn Beck's latest hyperbolictic bad guy. He's a "communist" ? These guys would call their own mother a "communist" if they saw her put something in the Good Will box, their accusations ring hollow, it seems everyone is a communist/nazi/socialist/voodo doctor to these guys these days, like any over-use of a term, they themselves have made it meaningless.

The man was never a member of the Communist Party. He worked to organize poor people into voting blocks so they could gain political power legally. He advised others as to how it is done, and I don't see "throw a bomb" in there anywhere. Look at what a joke ole SkidRoe is making of himself, he seems to think "use ridicule" is some left wing plot, then he's going to turn on the radio and listen to Limbaugh ridicule every one he doesn't like and Beck pour fake gasoline on someone. Alinsky simply made a list of tactics all political activists use, and caught the left wingers up on a few of tactics used by the right since Hitler. Nixon could have wrote the damned thing.

Your analysis is disingenious to say the least. His world view was the standard radical anti-american bs that the poor are all vicitms of the rich, that the rich owe the poor and that the poor are never responsible for their own problems.

It was BS then and it's BS now. The fact that this sort of responsibility eschewing crud is the standard fare of "important left wing thinkers" indicates precisely what is wrong with "left wing thinkers" and why there will never be a rapprochemont between those on the left, and those on the right.

- Peter.

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Opinions are like something, I've heard, your welcome to have your own about Alinsky. We would not be talking about him if he did not succeed in what he set out to do: empower the powerless. Tough break for you right wingers. If you actually read him, you'd find out he was more about process than philosophy. No one really cared where he stood politically, what they really liked about him was his methodology for getting things done, like changing this country into a place we could all live in, instead of it being an exclusive club for the white middle class, by educating the powerless about how the process works. No one has practiced Alinsky better than you guys.

Correct.

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Again, what's the point?

We understand that you do not agree with what this individual said 50 years ago; I also think it's safe to say that he had a minority view at the time. We understand that a current US senator wrote a college paper about him 40 years ago, and that you would have probably chosen a different subject. I also understand that you have a problem with the existence of "left wing thinkers"; or is it "thinkers," in general?

Would you prefer to live in a country without any differing opinions, or just a country where anyone who expresses a differing opinion is considered unfit to hold public office for life? I believe there are several nations that would meet this criterion.

correct..or is it checkmate?

I don't know, everyone seems to agree on the facts; but some of us seem to think that these facts actually mean something that's relevant to 21st century american politics.

Maybe I should just watch whichever talking head these guys are trying to parrot, because they are not effectively communicating the talking point of the day.