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Old 01-27-2010, 07:39 AM
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Super Bowl (tm) ad by Tim Tivo

You have probably heard about the pro-life ad by Tim Tivo and his mom. She was advised to terminate her pregnancy,but made the decision to carry it to term. As a result, Tim who may be the best college football player ever, was born.
Yet, to hear the outcry from some portions of the left, you'd think the ad was advocating outlawing all abortion.
Fairly typical. In my experience the Left favors freedon speech ONLY when they agree with it. All, other speech is to be limited, regulated, restricted or made illegal.

So what's your take?
Is even this speech to be allowed?
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it goes to show that if your mom is not pro life, then you wont be......
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:24 AM
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it goes to show that if your mom is not pro life, then you wont be......
to be, or not to be, THAT is the question.
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Complaint as I understand it is that CBS rejected pro-gay rights ads in the past but is accepting this ad. Seems like a reasonable complaint to me.

In the interviews that I have seen Tebow seems to think that the only possible response a child to could have to a mother who did what his mother did, is to think it was the right decision. I know people in exactly the same situation as Tim Tebow, who think their mother should have gotten an abortion.
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Complaint as I understand it is that CBS rejected pro-gay rights ads in the past but is accepting this ad. Seems like a reasonable complaint to me.

In the interviews that I have seen Tebow seems to think that the only possible response a child to could have to a mother who did what his mother did, is to think it was the right decision. I know people in exactly the same situation as Tim Tebow, who think their mother should have gotten an abortion.
I know people in exactly the same situation as Tim Tebow, who think their mother should have gotten an abortion

if those people you know FRIENDS ???? who think that way tell their doctor they could get a nice soft room to live in -- jz
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I know people in exactly the same situation as Tim Tebow, who think their mother should have gotten an abortion

if those people you know FRIENDS ???? who think that way tell their doctor they could get a nice soft room to live in -- jz
Sanity is not defined by self-interest and it's really bad form for religious people to be spending millions of dollars on ads implying that it is.
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You have probably heard about the pro-life ad by Tim Tivo and his mom. She was advised to terminate her pregnancy,but made the decision to carry it to term. As a result, Tim who may be the best college football player ever, was born.
Yet, to hear the outcry from some portions of the left, you'd think the ad was advocating outlawing all abortion.
Fairly typical. In my experience the Left favors freedon speech ONLY when they agree with it. All, other speech is to be limited, regulated, restricted or made illegal.

So what's your take?
Is even this speech to be allowed?

logic is the one thing an opposing view has no comeback

this post will be ignored as no real argument can be made by a rational thinking person

but then again this is the OD
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logic is the one thing an opposing view has no comeback

this post will be ignored as no real argument can be made by a rational thinking person

but then again this is the OD

Can there be logic without grammar?
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logic is the one thing an opposing view has no comeback

this post will be ignored as no real argument can be made by a rational thinking person

but then again this is the OD
No, it's ignored for several reasons, lack of a real argument is not one of them.
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Yet, to hear the outcry from some portions of the left, you'd think the ad was advocating outlawing all abortion.
So what then is the ad advocating? And what is its purpose if it is not against abortion?

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Fairly typical. In my experience the Left favors freedon speech ONLY when they agree with it. All, other speech is to be limited, regulated, restricted or made illegal.
I dont' think that is your EXPERIENCE, I think it is your spin.

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So what's your take?
Is even this speech to be allowed?
Of course it is to be allowed. Quite a spendy way to get their message across though.
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One additional point. If the religious right were to have it's way, Tebo's mother would not be in a position to be praised for carrying a dangerous pregnancy to term because she would not have a choice to do otherwise.
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One additional point. If the religious right were to have it's way, Tebo's mother would not be in a position to be praised for carrying a dangerous pregnancy to term because she would not have a choice to do otherwise.
Red Herring.
AFAIK, the ad does not promote taking away anyone's rights. It simply tells the other side of the story.
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Red Herring.
AFAIK, the ad does not promote taking away anyone's rights. It simply tells the other side of the story.
Not a red herring at all. From what I've seen about the content of the ad, Tebo's mother's is praised for her choice. Focus on the Family is sponsoring the ad. Are you telling me that Focus on the Family is in favor of abortion rights? That's nonsense. The ad is a volley in the culture wars.
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Not a red herring at all. From what I've seen about the content of the ad, Tebo's mother's is praised for her choice. Focus on the Family is sponsoring the ad. Are you telling me that Focus on the Family is in favor of abortion rights? That's nonsense. The ad is a volley in the culture wars.
Yes, FOF is in favor of live births.

I have not seen the ad. Does it call for outlawing abortion, or does it just speak out on the other side?

AFAIK, the abortion issue has been decided; it is the law of the land. Do you think this ad will reverse that?
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Yes, FOF is in favor of live births.
Are they also in favor of women having abortion rights? If not then I think you have your answer of what the purpose of the ad is.
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