Its amazing to me the people who claim to not trust our government in the least,
have complete trust in the military.

Why ?

Do you not think the military is as corrupt, and screwed up as the other parts of our government ?

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.
Jimi Hendrix

in the interview i heard, he seemed supportive of the whole thing.

and just to be sure, i read the transcript. draw your own conclusions from this quote:

I think the big message of putting out that volume of material will be if people have come to grasp, as I expect they will, that nowhere in that vast amount of material will they find a good reason for us to be in Afghanistan or for escalating or for spending another $30 billion come this Wednesday or for more. And that's what the Pentagon Papers showed with thousands of pages.

with all due respect, did i mishear (or misread?) something?

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

uh, thank you, (self proclaimed) "master of the analogy".

anything to avoid the issue, i guess? do you get these tactics out of some manual, or are you just a natural obfuscator? (its a rhetorical question)

anyway, the war's a dog, another vietnam, or iraq, take your pick. bush lied. obama lied, and is still lying. (see, it's not a partisan issue)

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Individuals who purposely post classified documents on a public forum(regardless of content) are commiting treason and should be punished.

I have not seen any of these documents and have been warned by my employer to not attempt to view any of these leaked docs.

These morons are more reprehensible than the idiots who put themselves in front of giant ships because they "put their lives on the line to save whales."

Give me a break...

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yes, the government is never wrong, never lies to its people, and we should all bow down obediently.

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Even Barney Frank said something along the lines, "No one ever suggested you should trust your government..." It was a comment he made in answer to someone questioning him during his much publicised townhall meeting--the one in which he clearly outclassed his questioners.

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Well it looks like the “Hero” patriot/leaker says that through his organization’s intermediaries at the New York Times the White House was offered and asked for assistance in reviewing the classified “Evil Pentagon Liars” documents prior to their release, and the White House did not respond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_0fU7SYqoI

And the “Evil Pentagon Liars" now say that the Obama White House was never directly contacted by the “Hero” organization, but the White House admits to contact with New York Times intermediaries acting on behalf of the “Hero” organization.

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=60254



“It’s absolutely false that WikiLeaks contacted the White House and offered to have them look through the documents,” Marine Corps Col. David Lapan said.


Assange told “ABC Lateline” in Australia last night that WikiLeaks and several media groups contacted the White House prior to releasing the documents for assistance in reviewing them to make sure innocent names were not released. White House officials declined, he said.
He added that White House officials were not given “veto” power, but were given an opportunity help WikiLeaks minimize potential danger to informants and innocent civilians named in the cables. The New York Times acted on behalf of WikiLeaks, he said.

“We never had the opportunity to look at any of the documents in advance to determine anything,” Lapan said. “The documents were brought to the attention of the White House, but no copies of documents, or opportunities to review were given.”

Oh what a crazy mixed up world we live in!

If the White House refused or failed to take the opportunity to assist and review the classified documents before their release are they also culpable and accessories to murders?

Perhaps, but the real villian is GW Bush, who sent our troops into Af'stan on a fools errand. Bush is the true murderer and those supporting his policies are the true accessories.

Perhaps, but haven't more US service members died in Afghanistan since the Dear Leader came to power on January 20, 2009 than died in Afghanistan during the entire GW Bush administration?

I've never supported Obama's policies for Af'stan. I don't know what relevence the casualties for each president have to any discussion about Af'stan, but Bush is still in the lead from the figures I have seen. If we include Iraq in the catagory of fool's errand wars, Bush is waaay ahead of everyone. In fact, Bush is a bonafide war criminal. Did you vote for Bush?

"Bush is a bonafide war criminal"

"Just the facts, Ma'am" JF

What was the "war crime/s" GW Bush has been convicted of? When and where was the trial held?

invading several nations is illegal; doing it under false pretenses...? "priceless?"

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Whose law was violated? Why isn’t someone being called to account for such illegality? You've got to do more than make the allegations; you've got to prove the case Oliver Stone!

not sure what oliver stone has to do with this...? i don't really "have" to do anything there, "william". you, on the other hand, might benefit from a little time spent investigating the geneva convention, the united nations charter, etc., especially the parts dealing with "preemptive war", invasion of sovereign nations, etc. look into what hans blix said about the alleged "WMDs" (where are they, by the way?), colin powell's and george tenet's mea culpas about their role in the run-up to the invasions, etc. anyway, this empire (the u.s.) is finshed, just like the roman and various greek examples that preceded it, for the same reasons. hubris. greed. ignorance. and trust me, it is tragic. but inevitable.

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Anyway indeed!