My dishwasher has gone out. It seems to be in the panel with the buttons. It is a Kenmore with stainless front and tub and may be around 10 years old. My sister sells appliances and says even good brands of dw only last ten years and cheap ones last four.

I asked if there were any that just have very simple controls like the old fashoned twisty knobs which seem to last forever. She made fun of me.

She did say that Bosch offers one with actual push buttons. Anybody have experience with them?

Any sage thoughts are welcome.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I'd be worried that the "actual push buttons" still control a computer.

You can probably buy a new panel for your current unit, if the rest of it is still working. That's a lot cheaper and easier than replacing the whole thing.

I've give up trying to fix them, I just replace them hen they stop working.

A few years back I went through this; I just wanted a simple dishwasher that was about $500-$600, would be reliable, and not come with a thousand pushbutton gadgets that I'd never use. ConsumerRep suggested the Kenmore with QuiteGuard 3, and IIRC the more you pay the quieter they are.

Here's the current CR models in order of overall score:

Bosch SHE55M1[2]UC, $850
Kenmore 1374[2], $650
Kenmore Elite UltraWash HE 1312[2], $780
KitchenAid KUDS30IV[WH], $675
Bosch SHX43P1[2]UC, $800

You can research those and see which ones you like. The pricier ones are $1200-$1500, but if you hang around an old MB site, you probably like "bang for the buck".

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I agree with Craig.

The wife and I have the KitchenAid POS mentioned and are pleased with it. It's basically just us now so it doesn't get used heavily. Nice, simple and relatively quiet. We've had it for 6 years and still seems to work. At least the dishes don't come out dirtier than they went in which was the case with the washer it replaced.

It's hard to go wrong with a KitchenAid appliance.

It seems that appliance are beginning to mimic cars- loaded down with useless accessories and features that the average user does not need, understand, or want to pay to have repaired.

Yup, they are both completely disposable now.

The one before the present one was kitchenade I think.

Thanks for the comments so far. I am not keen on paying 600 plus for something that will only last ten years.

I wonder if I could find a classic from the eighties?

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

$600 for 10 years = about $1/week. Most $30k cars only last 10 years.

Besides, I'll be happy if I last 10 years.

My parents have a Frigidaire basic dishwasher with electronic controls, they use it multiple times per day and it has yet to give up after 5 years of use....best part, it cost $289 and does a nice job.

My new house came with a fancy Whirlpool unit that is brand new, works well, but we'll see how long it lasts. We only do about 3-4 loads of dishes a week....

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'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

Got a 70's or 80's bronze model free 'at the curb'. Came from an office building where it wasn't used much. One can of white epoxy spray paint and ten years later it is still working fine.

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1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

two hands, a stainless steel Chore Boy scrubber and a bottle of Dawn and my 16 year old "dishwasher" is good to go. That's what kids are for.

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84 Euro 240D 4spd. 220.5k sold
04 Honda Element AWD
1985 F150 XLT 4x4, 351W with 270k miles, hay hauler
1997 Suzuki Sidekick 4x4
1993 Toyota 4wd Pickup 226K and counting

Mid-range Kenmore / Whirlpool is the best bang for the buck. The tall tub models have amazing room inside but a ***** to install due to less clearance underneath. Spend a little extra on the nylon racks which are a lot tougher. Some people like the stainless tub which lasts forever, but the rest of the unit will still only last 10-15 years.

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2012 Subaru Forester 5-speed
2005 Toyota Sienna
2004 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1999 Toyota Tacoma

...now that's what I am talking about!

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.