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Old 09-18-2010, 06:35 PM
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hate to break the news to Rush and the rest of the world, but forced health care is coming to your front door courtesy of the insurance lobby. and it will easily double to triple the number of people who currently access the health care system. need to schedule an MRI for that bum knee? take a number.

as the number of people who need the exact same procedure will easily double, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to calculate that the system will be overloaded. but don't worry, your doctor will schedule you in, right after patient
#10,106 gets seen. or, if he is like some of the experienced (20+ years experience) doctors I have spoken with, your doctor may choose to find a fishing pole and RETIRE.

after Dr. Experience bails out and the MRI's back up six months and counting, good luck getting that bum knee looked at.

forced health care is for a good cause though. finally, we will be able to say that everyone has access to the health care system. no child left behind.
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:43 PM
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...but don't worry, your doctor will schedule you in, right after patient #10,106 gets seen. or, if he is like some of the experienced (20+ years experience) doctors I have spoken with, your doctor may choose to find a fishing pole and RETIRE
Perfect! Why would you want to have medical decisions made by some old burnout? Let him perfect his short game at the country club while someone more motivated and less greedy can keep you alive.

Aren't you the same guy who once said that courtesy of a lack of malpractice insurance reform, all OBGYN's in your state fled the jurisdiction? I seem to recall performing 3.5 seconds of research and finding that your state was practically bursting at the seams with these specialists.

You make Wikipedia seem unimpeachable...
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:31 PM
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Perfect! Why would you want to have medical decisions made by some old burnout? Let him perfect his short game at the country club while someone more motivated and less greedy can keep you alive.

Aren't you the same guy who once said that courtesy of a lack of malpractice insurance reform, all OBGYN's in your state fled the jurisdiction? I seem to recall performing 3.5 seconds of research and finding that your state was practically bursting at the seams with these specialists.

You make Wikipedia seem unimpeachable...
another state and all but a handful of OBGYN's closed their doors. there is more to the story but it appears you wouldn't be interested.......
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:12 AM
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Perfect! Why would you want to have medical decisions made by some old burnout? Let him perfect his short game at the country club while someone more motivated and less greedy can keep you alive.

Aren't you the same guy who once said that courtesy of a lack of malpractice insurance reform, all OBGYN's in your state fled the jurisdiction? I seem to recall performing 3.5 seconds of research and finding that your state was practically bursting at the seams with these specialists.

You make Wikipedia seem unimpeachable...
Mercedes Benz Mechanic straight out of mercedes school versus Mercedes Benz Master Mechanic with 20+ years experience.

Neurosurgeon straight out of med school versus Neurosurgeon with 20+ years experience.

those who want table scraps will get what they ask for. those who insist on the best will receive the best.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:07 PM
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Mercedes Benz Mechanic straight out of mercedes school versus Mercedes Benz Master Mechanic with 20+ years experience.

Neurosurgeon straight out of med school versus Neurosurgeon with 20+ years experience.

those who want table scraps will get what they ask for. those who insist on the best will receive the best.
Your examples only work if all portrayed individuals perform at the best of their abilities. If the 20+ years guys have lost their motivation and don't give their best, they're worse than useless.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:20 PM
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Your examples only work if all portrayed individuals perform at the best of their abilities. If the 20+ years guys have lost their motivation and don't give their best, they're worse than useless.
tell you what, why don't we ask the passengers on US Airways flight 1549 whether they would have preferred a fresh outta flight school pilot or one that had both military training and thousands of hours of flight time in the cockpit? as Captain Sullenberger responded to Katie Couric's interview question:

Katie: "Did you think you could handle it??"

Sullenberger: " I KNEW THAT I COULD DO IT" (sounds like a man who is confident in his abilities).

He also stated that he felt that he had been training for this in flight crisis (engine out on take off = big trouble) his entire career. when faced with unbeatable odds, EXPERIENCE and TRAINING steps up and takes care of business. upstarts fresh outta flight academy are still learning to fly....same goes for any other field including medicine.

here's an idea; you stay with your fresh outta med school docs, I, on the other hand will go with the Dr. TRAINING + EXERIENCE = world class skill set.

Good luck, you'll need it.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:28 PM
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tell you what, why don't we ask the passengers on US Airways flight 1549 whether they would have preferred a fresh outta flight school pilot or one that had both military and thousands of hours of flight time in the cockpit. as Captain Sullenberger responded to Katie Couric's interview question:

Katie: "Did you think you could handle it??"

Sullenberger: " I KNEW THAT I COULD DO IT" (sounds like a man who is confident in his abilities).

He also stated that he felt that he had been training for this in flight crisis (engine out on take off = big trouble) his entire career. when faced with unbeatable odds, EXPERIENCE and TRAINING steps up and takes care of business. upstarts fresh outta flight academy are still learning to fly....same goes for any other field including medicine.

here's an idea; you stay with your fresh outta med school docs, I, on the other hand will go with the Dr. TRAINING + EXERIENCE = world class skill set.

Good luck, you'll need it.
Sullenberger is a totally different issue and I think you should realize that. Sullenberger was on that flight so he would damn well do everything he can to stay alive. Your Dr or Mechanic, OTOH isn't riding with you so, the equation is different.

Experience means little if the person is not motivated or talented. I'd take a fresh out of Med school grad over a Dr with 20 yrs experience if the former is motivate and the latter has his mind on his next sodoku move or his golf game. Yes, all things being equal, I'd take the 20 yr man.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:36 PM
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Sullenberger is a totally different issue and I think you should realize that. Sullenberger was on that flight so he would damn well do everything he can to stay alive. Your Dr or Mechanic, OTOH isn't riding with you so, the equation is different.

Experience means little if the person is not motivated or talented. I'd take a fresh out of Med school grad over a Dr with 20 yrs experience if the former is motivate and the latter has his mind on his next sodoku move or his golf game. Yes, all things being equal, I'd take the 20 yr man.
I disagree. Sullenberger admits that when faced with a crisis both his training and experience saved the day. In addition, as you say, let's not forget that most likely Captain Sullenberger was not mentally practicing his golf game while handling the crisis.

Along those same lines, Surgery is NEVER routine, there always exists the possibility of a Flight 1549 crisis in the OR. Fresh outta med school docs are good, but they just haven't accumulated enough OR time for me to be comfortable with their skill set, especially during surgery.

Dr. Training + Experience + FOCUS makes for the ultimate surgical experience.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:34 PM
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tell you what, why don't we ask the passengers on US Airways flight 1549 whether they would have preferred a fresh outta flight school pilot or one that had both military training and thousands of hours of flight time in the cockpit. as Captain Sullenberger responded to Katie Couric's interview question:

Katie: "Did you think you could handle it??"

Sullenberger: " I KNEW THAT I COULD DO IT" (sounds like a man who is confident in his abilities).

He also stated that he felt that he had been training for this in flight crisis (engine out on take off = big trouble) his entire career. when faced with unbeatable odds, EXPERIENCE and TRAINING steps up and takes care of business. upstarts fresh outta flight academy are still learning to fly....same goes for any other field including medicine.

here's an idea; you stay with your fresh outta med school docs, I, on the other hand will go with the Dr. TRAINING + EXERIENCE = world class skill set.

Good luck, you'll need it.
Poor example - try to remember that an airplane pilot has a bit of a vested interest to land an airplane safely, given that his arse is aboard the plane.

Let's try this one - who would you prefer watching your back: A properly trained air traffic controller with but a few years experience who is alert and attentive to the traffic on his scope, or an air traffic controller with identical training credentials +20 years experience, who is fried and more interested in taking personal cellphone calls than keeping airplanes and helicopters away from one another...
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Poor example - try to remember that an airplane pilot has a bit of a vested interest to land an airplane safely, given that his arse is aboard the plane.

Let's try this one - who would you prefer watching your back: A properly trained air traffic controller with but a few years experience who is alert and attentive to the traffic on his scope, or an air traffic controller with identical training credentials +20 years experience, who is fried and more interested in taking personal cellphone calls than keeping airplanes and helicopters away from one another...
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