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Old 09-30-2010, 11:21 PM
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Brian,

"NYC" is in quotations, because of craig's claims. Craig knows perhaps far less than I do, because I actually lived and worked in "NYC" (all the boroughs) for months out of the year. The only borough I did not work in, but travelled through was The Bronx, on my way to work out the expressway toward Connecticut.

I wasn't stupid enough to base in NYC, I based near Rutgers University in New Jersey while I lived and worked in "NYC."

I can assure you, that craig's post needed a lot of quotation marks, because he obviously knew little of his "friend's daughter's" details about living and working in "NYC."

I know about about "NYC's multitude of neighborhoods" and pricing differences because again "I lived and worked in NYC" for months out of the year.

My duties included working in all the boroughs, of "NYC," something that craig may know nothing about. If you are assuming I know nothing of "NYC," that, Brian, is not the case.
If true, you cannot defend the statement:


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I can assure you that most households in "NYC" manage to survive on far less than your friend's daughter's amount of "$50-60K" a year
If you're referring to some bad areas of the Bronx or Brooklyn, you might have an argument, but I think we can discard those as unsuitable for a young female college graduate.

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Old 09-30-2010, 11:23 PM
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location location location... its all sucky
Another statement without substantiation. Do you know the various areas of NYC and the costs associated with each area?

It is not "all sucky"...........
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:29 PM
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Yup, I'm sure this young lady is getting some significant checks from her dad to make ends meet, I think she's paying in the $2-3000 range for a pretty small walk-up apartment. My friend spent an entire weekend carrying tons of cheap Ikea up three flights of stairs. Who knows how long she'll want to stay, but it sounded like a pretty interesting first job.
craig, even though you may not realize it - your posts don't add up. But that's OK with me.

Be that as it may.......if you are claiming that; "I'm sure this young lady is getting some significant checks......to make ends meet." That's OK with me too. I'm just here to say that it does not take a single person, WITHOUT an automobile, "$50-60K + significant checks...." to make ends meet, AND live in one of the (5)? boroughs of "NYC." Nowhere close to, "significantly above $60K a year." That's all....
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I'm just here to say that it does not take a single person, WITHOUT an automobile, "$50-60K + significant checks...." to make ends meet, AND live in one of the (5)? boroughs of "NYC." Nowhere close to, "significantly above $60K a year." That's all....
The devil is in the details.

Most of these newly graduated women from outside the state will gravitate to Manhattan..........any of the outer boroughs would be considered unacceptable. Therefore, the statement by Craig is correct.

However, if you allow this young woman to live in the Bronx, you are also correct.
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:35 PM
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Don't bother, Brian.

I don't think we are all on the same page regarding what is an acceptable standard of living for a young lady in NYC. I do not know her exact income or rent, but I got a pretty good idea of the round numbers from her dad (who was not thrilled by the fact that she was moving there at all). My only point was that it's a tough place to live on an entry level salary. It's not worth arguing about the details.
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:37 PM
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Don't bother, Brian.

I don't think we are all on the same page regarding what is an acceptable standard of living for a young lady in NYC. I do not know her exact income or rent, but I got a pretty good idea of the round numbers from her dad (who was not thrilled by the fact that she was moving there at all). My only point was that it's a tough place to live on an entry level salary. It's not worth arguing about the details.
Beat you to it.

We are on the same page.

See post #19.

I happen to have a very good understanding of all the costs associated with living in NYC and I won't accept claims by people who don't have a clue.
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:37 PM
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A gallon of milk in NYC costs $4.50. It costs $2 here.
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A gallon of milk in NYC costs $4.50. It costs $2 here.
Yep.

I go shopping for a few odds and ends at the "supermarket" right downstairs from the GF on the upper east side.

I bought a container of OJ and a box of cereal. The bill was $10.00.........
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:41 PM
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The devil is in the details.

Most of these newly graduated women from outside the state will gravitate to Manhattan..........any of the outer boroughs would be considered unacceptable. Therefore, the statement by Craig is correct.

However, if you allow this young woman to live in the Bronx, you are also correct.
She is living in Manhattan, there is not a chance that her dad would let her live elsewhere in the city. Knowing him, I'm surprised he didn't just buy the whole building (One of his other friends did exactly that when his kid moved to NYC for a job).
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:42 PM
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She is living in Manhattan, there is not a chance that her dad would let her live elsewhere in the city. Knowing him, I'm surprised he didn't just buy the whole building (One of his other friends did exactly that when his kid moved to NYC for a job).
Of course. The discussion of the outer boroughs is moot.
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:43 PM
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If true, you cannot defend the statement:




If you're referring to some bad areas of the Bronx or Brooklyn, you might have an argument, but I think we can discard those as unsuitable for a young female college graduate.
Brian,

I realized it was folly in my long term rental car, trying to find a retail establishment to relieve my bladder in, in The Bronx. You nailed The Bronx quite accurately. My business was up in ?White Plains, NY.? -on up the expressway......

When total outsiders make claims to not being able to make it on let's say "$75K" a year WITHOUT a car, living and working in NYC, they know not of what they are posting that's all.

I could find a super nice furnished room in a private home to live in - in Queens, or maybe even Brooklyn in all of perhaps 3 days of arriving at La Guardia by airliner from DFW. If my job included commuting in to Manhattan, I would not even need a car. Newsflash to outsiders; I'd take the subway to work.

Better yet, I'd probably opt to live in Jersey. I'm just sayin' a story like craigy's doesn't even begin to make sense without details. craigy lives in what "Denver?" That's all.....
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:45 PM
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I'm hoping my kids find job satisfaction in Des Moines.
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Not to "Sideslip" a pre-HiJacked Thread...

The CEO of Waste Management was interviewed on national T.V. this week.
They're re-packaging and re-selling the recyclables they don't use in their own
energy generation program to OTHER recyclers OFFSHORE...
'To the tune of 13 BILLION USD per annum.
(He said that's more than the value of the company,as a whole.)

Wait...('Takes a while for the Cranium to engage lofty mathematical matters)
I'm paying WM $40.00 per month for the weekly pick-up of one of those wheeled
containers...
AND They're making $13 BILLION USD off the compiled waste of all their customers.
IN addition to any other revenue accrued to the company...

THEY SHOULD BE PAYING ME!

$75K for a sanitation engineer in NYC is an insult. (Too Low)

Bloomberg's men aren't as smart as WM???

NYC SHOULD be making money off their "Garbage".
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:49 PM
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A gallon of milk in NYC costs $4.50. It costs $2 here.
And in Dallas, Texas a gallon of fresh sweet milk can be had for .95 cents. There's a milk war on.....what can I tell ya.... What's milk got to do with living/working in NYC?
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:54 PM
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When total outsiders make claims to not being able to make it on let's say "$75K" a year WITHOUT a car, living and working in NYC, they know not of what they are posting that's all.
As I mentioned above, the reference to NYC is specifically with regard to Manhattan.

Young female college graduates will not live in the Bronx..........or Queens.........or Brooklyn for that matter.

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