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Old 10-01-2010, 12:24 AM
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What kind of light fixture uses a 19.7 volt 200 watt lamp?

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And to think they used to teach Ohms law in seventh grade Science!

Apparently, some people didn't learn seventh grade science because they posted a chart with a couple of glaring errors.

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Mayhaps, we should affix it as a tag to all Electrical consumers WW ?
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Voltage is pressure. So you are kind of asking why a tire rated for 40 PSI blew when you put 75 PSI in it. Thats why.
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What kind of light fixture uses a 19.7 volt 200 watt lamp?
Pool light. The pool has fiber optic lights and the halogen is the light source.
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Voltage is pressure. So you are kind of asking why a tire rated for 40 PSI blew when you put 75 PSI in it. Thats why.
Well i was looking at it more like a 200 psi tire and it ran fine with 20 psi but not 50 when it is rated for 200. I guessed that the voltage had something to do with it but was not sure how.
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Think of the bulb like a rubber hose; voltage is pressure, current (amps) is the amount of water flow, and power (watts) is the amount of energy in the water flowing through the hose to turn a waterwheel (pressure x flow = power). The hose is designed to carry a certain amount of water flow at a certain pressue, if you increase the pressure a little, the flow will increase and the water will contain more energy; if you increase the pressure too much, the hose will burst. How much extra pressure you can get away with depends on the design and quality of the hose.
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Pool light. The pool has fiber optic lights and the halogen is the light source.
Gotcha- I've never run across one of those. I wonder why they chose 19.7 volts instead of 120 or even 12 as they are commonly available. I'm sure there is some reason, probably so you have to buy their proprietary lamp!
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Gotcha- I've never run across one of those. I wonder why they chose 19.7 volts instead of 120 or even 12 as they are commonly available. I'm sure there is some reason, probably so you have to buy their proprietary lamp!
If you think for one minute, you'll probably realize exactly why they didn't use 120V. 12V may have required too much current to get the illumination they sought.
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Well i was looking at it more like a 200 psi tire and it ran fine with 20 psi but not 50 when it is rated for 200. I guessed that the voltage had something to do with it but was not sure how.
In this analogy, the bulb is the tire....
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If you think for one minute, you'll probably realize exactly why they didn't use 120V. 12V may have required too much current to get the illumination they sought.
It all originates from the 120/240v service so it's just a matter of what transformer you use. The difference from 12 to 19.7 volt is not that much and 12 volt is much more common. As I said, I'm sure there was a reason they made the lamp 19.7V, but I'm not familiar with the system or the use of that voltage for anything.
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:08 AM
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I already take enough grief from my sparky friends for being a "flange-head."
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:12 AM
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Think of the bulb like a rubber hose; voltage is pressure, current (amps) is the amount of water flow, and power (watts) is the amount of energy in the water flowing through the hose to turn a waterwheel (pressure x flow = power). The hose is designed to carry a certain amount of water flow at a certain pressue, if you increase the pressure a little, the flow will increase and the water will contain more energy; if you increase the pressure too much, the hose will burst. How much extra pressure you can get away with depends on the design and quality of the hose.

Nice analogy. I always used the pressure used(voltage) has to overcome the friction(resistance) and the by product was heat or light(current).

I get it from both sides in the power plant as well.
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It all originates from the 120/240v service so it's just a matter of what transformer you use. The difference from 12 to 19.7 volt is not that much and 12 volt is much more common. As I said, I'm sure there was a reason they made the lamp 19.7V, but I'm not familiar with the system or the use of that voltage for anything.
Sorry, you failed the test.

The reason that you don't use 120V around a pool is to avoid killing someone if the worst scenario occurs. This has occurred in prior accidents when the system failed at one point and did not have a GFI.

I would have thought that you, of all people, would have known that.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:35 AM
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So I take it you were a knuckle draggin Machinist Mate?
Nope, just a plain old mechanical engineer.

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