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Old 10-19-2010, 12:51 PM
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Ah. Thanks for the explanation. Hardly a surprizing outcome though in my opinion.

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Old 10-19-2010, 04:44 PM
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Ah. Thanks for the explanation. Hardly a surprizing outcome though in my opinion.

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The article posted has the potential to be terribly missleading. The actual subject to which the chancellor's address is referring has far more reach then just 'Muslims', Islam and Chrsitian values.

In my oppinion, the article leaves out parts that would help to make a distinction, even by those who are not upto date with German efforts to accommodate immigrants.
The article has a tendency to create an impression as if Germany would take side in the general "Anti Muslim" movement. Germans know better than that, yet they do recognise the enormous challenge ahead.

Going through German media releases it also becomes clear that the issue was not only targeting Muslim ethnicity, but likewise being critical toward the lacking effort to integrate by Easter European migrants.
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Old 10-20-2010, 07:23 AM
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The article posted has the potential to be terribly missleading. The actual subject to which the chancellor's address is referring has far more reach then just 'Muslims', Islam and Chrsitian values.

In my oppinion, the article leaves out parts that would help to make a distinction, even by those who are not upto date with German efforts to accommodate immigrants.
The article has a tendency to create an impression as if Germany would take side in the general "Anti Muslim" movement. Germans know better than that, yet they do recognise the enormous challenge ahead.

Going through German media releases it also becomes clear that the issue was not only targeting Muslim ethnicity, but likewise being critical toward the lacking effort to integrate by Easter European migrants.
Was it France that recently deported a bunch of Roma (Gypsys)? There is also a lot of illegal imigration from Africa.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:54 AM
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Was it France that recently deported a bunch of Roma (Gypsys)? There is also a lot of illegal imigration from Africa.
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When you drop into a society various uneducated poor groups with little working skills who are not familiar the culture they are now living in, nor the culture of the other groups attempting to do the same you come up with a New York City type of culture without the museums: nearly everyone is rude to each other, it's normal to scam the system as much as possible- regardless if it's gov rent assistance or a pension, and socialism rules that lowers everyone to a basement level of super crowded living like rats.
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:55 AM
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When you drop into a society various uneducated poor groups with little working skills who are not familiar the culture they are now living in, nor the culture of the other groups attempting to do the same you come up with a New York City type of culture without the museums: nearly everyone is rude to each other, it's normal to scam the system as much as possible- regardless if it's gov rent assistance or a pension, and socialism rules that lowers everyone to a basement level of super crowded living like rats.
What I see is more like a lot of these groups don't want to assimulate into the new culture. Take your pick, it usually gets ugly. Urban Renewal, Imigration Reform etc. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it. I do think there are benifits to a multi or cross cultural society, though. Some of the minorities do not get the credit for some of the advancements they have contributed.
Yes, it is human nature to get by with the least amount of effort. Corperate culture does about the same scamming off the Eagle as best it can. But screams bloody murder at all the riff-raff for being on the dole.
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