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daveuz 10-19-2010 12:22 PM

Repeal Healthcare bill?
 
"Sen. Judd Gregg (N.H.), the top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, said that repealing the new healthcare reform law — or looking to defund it — were not good options" ...... Repealing healthcare reform isn't the most politically popular move, either. Only 31 percent of registered voters that they favor repealing the legislation......http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/124749-gregg-repeal-isnt-best-approach-to-health-reform

kknudson 10-19-2010 01:03 PM

Well I didn't read the article, but my ongoing comment is

"This is NOT a HealthCARE bill, it is a Heatlh Coverage or Heatlh Insurance Bill"

IF, as it was totted, it was Health Care Reform it would have had something in it to control the astronomical rise in Health care costs.
It does little to nothing, except by spreading the cost.

An interesting artile I read discusses one reason there has been such a rise in costs.
Back when I was little(I'm almost 58), no one had insurance, you paid out of pocket. As more and more people got insurance costs have risen, so more people got insurance so costs rose, ...
There are other reasons, yes, but this is one cause.

And I still want an explanation of a recent procedure the wife had done, billed 8400, paid under 2k, Insurance and co-pay.
WHY THE DIFFERENCE ??
WHERE DID THE DIFFERENCE GO ??

Did the hospital write it off as unrecoverable or something ?

Funny too, for a struggling health care industry, I see a lot of hospitals building or adding on.


But it's just standard gov procedure, fix the symptom, not the problem.


PS I have said the same about skyrocketing college costs, each time the gov adds a scholarship, grant or ?? the colleges raise their price, so the gov adds more scholarships, grants etc so the colleges raise their price so the ....

This hasn't been helped by the ongoing push of parents, via one mechanism or another, to fund their childs college. When I was yong, parents helped some, but only mnor amounts. Maybe living expenses.
Today they feel that everyone has to have a degree, we have to remember that there are a lot of good jobs for non degree'd folks.

Mechanics, construction, etc.


Both issue's went to a breaking point, but I don't see a solution coming for either.

Skid Row Joe 10-19-2010 04:17 PM

We won't "Have To Repeal It."

Since we can't afford to implement it in the first place.

catmandoo62 10-19-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kknudson (Post 2567898)
This hasn't been helped by the ongoing push of parents, via one mechanism or another, to fund their childs college. When I was yong, parents helped some, but only mnor amounts. Maybe living expenses.
Today they feel that everyone has to have a degree, we have to remember that there are a lot of good jobs for non degree'd folks.

Mechanics, construction, etc.


Both issue's went to a breaking point, but I don't see a solution coming for either.

yeah when exactly did word come down that you had to pay for your kids college.damn kids these days are lazy enough as it is.then let em party 24/7 in college.

SirNik84 10-19-2010 04:32 PM

kknudson, YOU GOT IT!!!!
:musicband:dj::dancefool:thumbup:

I can't really add anything to what you said.

Health Insurance reform.... Outlaw health insurance.
College reform.... cut off "free money"

These institutions would then have to price their products so people could afford them, or they would have to close their doors.

I remember looking at a truck back when GMAC was in trouble... you could get a base model work 1500 work truck for 7k... why did the price fall so quickly? because without the option of offering a loan at the dealership most people can't afford to pay more then 7k. but at 7k people could scrape up that kind of money.

Skid Row Joe 10-19-2010 04:37 PM

You got it, SirNik......

Craig 10-19-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by catmandoo62 (Post 2568013)
yeah when exactly did word come down that you had to pay for your kids college.damn kids these days are lazy enough as it is.then let em party 24/7 in college.

Yup, and my kids even want to be fed on a regular basis; kids today!

When I was 3 and a half, I had five paper routes and then I had to go to work in a coal mine.

Get off my lawn!

Honus 10-19-2010 05:08 PM

Does anyone believe that the GOP is ready to take over either house of Congress? They've got the obstruction game down pat, but they have no idea how to govern. No idea.

tonkovich 10-19-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 2568023)
Yup, and my kids even want to be fed on a regular basis; kids today!

When I was 3 and a half, I had five paper routes and then I had to go to work in a coal mine.

Get off my lawn!

...and walk eight miles to school, barefoot, uphill both ways, in a blizzard?

Craig 10-19-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Honus (Post 2568042)
Does anyone believe that the GOP is ready to take over either house of Congress? They've got the obstruction game down pat, but they have no idea how to govern. No idea.

But it would be so much fun to watch them try. If politicians can't be competent, the should at least be entertaining. :D

TheDon 10-19-2010 05:22 PM

just leave the part where college students, up to age 26 get to stay on their parents health insurance.. please please. I really need it

daveuz 10-19-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 2568048)
But it would be so much fun to watch them try. If politicians can't be competent, the should at least be entertaining. :D

Ok start here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvaeHllwtw

Craig 10-19-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by daveuz (Post 2568051)

Everyone from TN has to vote for this guy, maybe he can actually take office before the hospital figures out that he's missing.

kknudson 10-19-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Honus (Post 2568042)
Does anyone believe that the GOP is ready to take over either house of Congress? They've got the obstruction game down pat, but they have no idea how to govern. No idea.

They're no worse at governing than the Dems.
Of course since both easily rate a double digit NEGATIVE on a 10 point scale ! :P

Remember don't blame the Dems, don't blame the Repubs.

BLAME THE POLITICIANS !

Craig 10-19-2010 05:48 PM

Don't blame them, just sit back and watch the show; it's free entertainment (maybe not free, but if we have to pay for it we might as well enjoy the freak show).


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