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Old 03-24-2011, 05:20 PM
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Deja Vu. You talk like a liberal who opposed the Iraq war...
Does that mean I can, or cannot oppose the Libyan excursion?

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Old 03-24-2011, 05:28 PM
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Does that mean I can, or cannot oppose the Libyan excursion?
You can do what ever you want, it's a free country after all. Just think it's funny that arguments once used by the left are now used by the right.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:34 PM
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Just think it's funny that arguments once used by the left are now used by the right.
Hardly, it's a given.

The Speaker of the House, in his latest correspondance to the President, asks how is this military action going to be paid for. I suppose it's better late than never to ask.
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Old 03-24-2011, 08:33 PM
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You can do what ever you want, it's a free country after all. Just think it's funny that arguments once used by the left are now used by the right.
It may have skipped your attention, but I posted no criticism of the President re: Libya until he belatedly decided to participate in the no fly zone. If he thought the no-fly zone was a good idea, he could have done it some time ago. It appeared that he had decided to stay "hands off", and I was OK with that. I might be less partisan than you think. I did not oppose him simply because he was a democrat.
As much as I disliked Bill and Hillary, or even Al Gore, they were capable of leadership--perhaps in the wrong direction, but leadership, none the less. At this point I would crave the return of any of the aforementioned
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Is it easy to set up a "no fly zone?" I would assume that getting the UN Security Council to fashion an agreement is no easy matter . . . then there's the issue of getting the neighboring nations, particularly the Arab League, on board, and then putting the logistic pieces in place. Or am I, in my inexperience in such matters, overstating the complexity?
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:43 PM
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sort of like John Kerry's flip flop on the Iraq war....politicians, they are all alike....
No they are not all alike. many are thoughtful and responsible. We tend to hear about the idiots.
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I think O did a good thing, keeping quiet until the UN passed a resolution. Perhaps a little more leadership would have been good but saying nothing is much better than saying the wrong thing.
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You can do what ever you want, it's a free country after all. Just think it's funny that arguments once used by the left are now used by the right.
For problems that the left complianed how the right handled them, and the left used the same tactics.
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I think O did a good thing, keeping quiet until the UN passed a resolution. Perhaps a little more leadership would have been good but saying nothing is much better than saying the wrong thing.
I think he handled that part just about as well as it could be handled.
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I think he handled that part just about as well as it could be handled.
It was better than a knee jerk/ guns blazing reaction---except for the rebels killed in the interim. Of course, we don't even know who are the rebels, do we. We might be supporting people who want to kill us anyway.

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Newt's best recent line was that his excessive love of country had caused his extra-marital affairs.
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You can do what ever you want, it's a free country after all. Just think it's funny that arguments once used by the left are now used by the right.

"The one on the right was on the left and the one on the left was in the middle.........if you got political convictions, keep 'em to yourself"
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Newt on Van Sustern:

"If they're serious about protecting civilians, you can't do that from the air. Qadaffi is going to use light infantry, he’s going to use his secret police. He’s going to be in the cities, he’s going to be inside buildings. You're not going to be able to do that with air power. This is a fundamental mistake. And I think is a typical politician's over-reliance on air power."

So, is he criticizing the President and the no-fly zone as being too wimpy?
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:21 PM
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Kinetic Military whatchamacallit again?
Pfffftttt
This guy ain't Bush Lite. He's Bush Heavy.
This latest foray? The Democrats' chance to make up for missing the train to Rwanda me thinks. (See Hillary and the other skirt all over this one.)

"Close Gitmo? Me? Not a chance." Promises? fuggetabgoutit!

"Af'stan? I'll see your combat combat Brigades Bush, and I'll call you with them in Af'stan. and I'll borrow your General too"

"Don't need the Marines in Iraq anymore? Goodie, I can use them everywhere..."

Af'stan: http://www.usmc.mil/news/pages/marinestv.aspx?pid=JzgeewYhkoRZwzEmDMbSYY4UsGsSA3Vi

Japan: http://www.usmc.mil/news/pages/marinestv.aspx?pid=K0L_wPPmCyaVAt0zJzz3U3hcFMRtL9cR

Libya:
http://www.usmc.mil/news/pages/marinestv.aspx?pid=yggci6btoCriA0LjYJ3KR140Nj9afte1

OOHRAH. S/F

Personally, I think he's damned if he does and damned if doesn't. As far as core principles go tho, I agree with Fowler. Don't see a lot of clearly defined principles or beliefs. I wish he'd go on the tele and speak about them and why he thinks we need to do this country's cleanup and not that country's......"WITHOUT A FARKIN TELEPROMPTER."
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Interesting factoid . . . Newt, the 10 term congressman from Georgia, hasn't voted there in 10 years, since he moved from Georgia to Washington, DC in 2000. He could be the most "insider" outsider the GOP has ever run.

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