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Old 01-31-2012, 04:21 PM
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I believe various home owner insurance companies will rate up a policy if the home owner has a pit. A pit attack which results in injury or death is a personal injury lawyer's dream come true.
There are three breeds which will jack one's HO policy, pits, German Shepherds, and I believe the other one is Huskies, if I remember correctly.

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There are three breeds which will jack one's HO policy, pits, German Shepherds, and I believe the other one is Huskies, if I remember correctly.
yeah, the insurance companies have a list of most dangerous breeds which they use to rate up the policy. if the home owner's pit causes injury or death to someone, the insurance company may terminate or non-renew the policy. then, the homeowner is non insurable which is not a good thing.

a good PI lawyer will not only go after the homeowner's insurance policy, they will get a judgment and then garnish wages, seize cars, etc etc. it can get nasty real quick, especially if the pit killed someone important. he**, it can even go criminal.
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when you think about it, the homeowner insurance companies could bring this to a halt. simply stop insuring the homes of pit bull owners. call it an "uninsurable risk" similar to declining insurance to a driver convicted of multiple DUIs.
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:14 PM
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I think it might help but some of the people owning pits will just lie about it to the insurance company. Then of course the insurance company is off the hook if a mishap occurs.
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Mine's obviously a freak of nature, because he's pretty tolerant of other dogs.





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Old 01-31-2012, 09:30 PM
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I have a good friend in phoenix who divorced an abusive husband and adopted a rescued boxer named Shadow. They bonded immediately. It was like Shadow knew they were kindred spirits. When visitors came, the dog wasn't agressive, but wasn't friendly either. He'd put himself in some corner of the room and just sit at attention and watch everyone.
One day, the ex husband asked if he could come over to discuss some issue he needed to speak to my friend about. The discussion got heated and the husband stood up to my friend and raised a fist in a threatening manner. Without a bark, growl or any other warning Shadow attacked from behind and took out the entire upper portion of the meat in the back of the sumb!tch's leg. Ripped muscle from just below his butt nearly to his knee. My friend is a trauma nurse and that's the only reason he didn't bleed out completely before the ambulance came. He still gimps around with his leg in a brace 30 years later.
The first boxer in my pictures always makes sure he stands between me, my wife, or my kids when we're on a walk and encounter another person. He doesn't growl, just stands between us to make sure distance is kept. He's the one that will attack if we are threatened, or take a bullet for me. The second one, the German standard, is the nurse dog. When any of us are ill, he's right beside us to care for us. When I passed out in the dining room last week, he's the one that stayed with me, licking my face to help bring me back. The third one is the one that ran upstairs and woke my wife up and pulled on her hand to bring her downstairs to me.

You can clearly see the difference between that American standard, which the first and third are, versus the German standard, which is the second one. American standards stand taller, have a higher head, and look more aggressive, while the German standard looks goofy. LOL
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:12 PM
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A neighbor of mine has a sweet elderly Boxer. They go on long slow walks together back along the fence line of my doe pasture. She loves the girls and always wants to stick her nose through the fence and lick them. The goats have decided that she, alone among dogs other than my Anatolians who are with them 24/7, is OK. They approach the fence and visit with her. Interestingly, the Anatolians accept her too. She hasn't been on their turf, which would be a different matter I'm sure, but she's allowed to approach the livestock and visit without being given the threat of being torn into tiny bits.
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I think it might help but some of the people owning pits will just lie about it to the insurance company. Then of course the insurance company is off the hook if a mishap occurs.
not a good place to be; if the pit injures or kills someone, the victim's family can sue the pit bull owner and the insurance company won't pay a dime. then, it's time for wage garnishments, asset seizure, etc etc.

I'll never forget the conversation I had with one woman who had 127 stitches in one leg over a pit bull incident. She had known the dog for seven years and had never had a problem. She told me the dog had NEVER acted violently towards anyone. The dog's owner went on vacation and had asked her to feed the dog. Days 1 - 3, she put the food bowl down, patted the dog on the head and the dog wagged his tail and began to eat. Day 4 was an entirely different story; she put the bowl down, patted the dog on the head and then turned to leave. She took five steps and heard the dog coming for her. A scary animal, especially if there are children involved.
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I'll never forget an incident where a pit bull was able to crush a mans throat by just looking at him. Some say that he was a Jedi

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it ain't just the likes of vick.every drug dealer and his buddies have em and train em to be mean.gotta keep the cops away ya know.
the cops have the means and the authority to shoot any animal they deem is a threat to their personal safety.
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A neighbor of mine has a sweet elderly Boxer. They go on long slow walks together back along the fence line of my doe pasture. She loves the girls and always wants to stick her nose through the fence and lick them. The goats have decided that she, alone among dogs other than my Anatolians who are with them 24/7, is OK. They approach the fence and visit with her. Interestingly, the Anatolians accept her too. She hasn't been on their turf, which would be a different matter I'm sure, but she's allowed to approach the livestock and visit without being given the threat of being torn into tiny bits.
I have owned an Anatolian, rather, lived with one, for 7 years now. He is the best instinctive dog I have ever seen.
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Conclusions—Although fatal attacks on humansappear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-typedogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite andcause fatalities at higher rates. Because of difficultiesinherent in determining a dog’s breed with certainty,enforcement of breed-specific ordinances raises con-stitutional and practical issues. Fatal attacks representa small proportion of dog bite injuries to humans and,therefore, should not be the primary factor drivingpublic policy concerning dangerous dogs. Many practi-cal alternatives to breed-specific ordinances exist andhold promise for prevention of dog bites. (J Am VetMed
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:54 PM
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I have owned an Anatolian, rather, lived with one, for 7 years now. He is the best instinctive dog I have ever seen.
Glad you changed your wording. Nobody owns Anatolians. I currently have two, an Akbash and a Karabash, both males, and a female Maremmano. I lost another Karabash last year to old age. They work as a team. A hapless coyote will be cornered by the two boys, and the fiery Italian female goes in for the kill. Afterwards it's a free for all. I get good money for my Anatolian/Maremma cross puppies. The female is pregnant again, at least I hope so. The Maremma is a bit more human friendly than the Anatolians. All 3 live 24/7 with the goats and sheep and eat a raw diet.
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the only conclusion is that people will continue to own a dog that has a long long history of unstable behavior. Kinda like Aklim's 47th rule of acquisition; the bigger the smile, the sharper the knife. With pits, it's the bigger the wagging tail the nastier the bite.

A friend of a friend has two german shepherds which he keeps in his six foot fenced back yard. One day, he looks out in the yard and sees two pit bulls attacking his dogs. Doesn't know how they got in, all he knows is they were attacking his dogs. He grabbed a cross bow and managed to kill one of the pits before the other tucked tail and ran. Unfortunately, one of his dogs got killed in the process. Like I said, Pits can climb trees and fences and show up unexpectedly in your yard when you're out playing with the kids.


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