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There is a large faction of conservative/ fundamentalist Christians who believe that the nation Israel remains God chosen people. Therefore, for those people, the OT promises to those countries that help Israel, are still in force and a motive to assist Israel. Other, still conservative, and Bible-believing Christians understand that God's "Israel" of the NT is simply all people of faith; not the nation Israel.
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08-02-2011, 05:17 PM
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I know some christians- and have told some they clearly got a few screws loose. One I know is also dogmatically political/fundimental right wing conservative.
NT-- Im thinking you mean the customized version contrived to please king james. Which one do you go by- the bible or the altered one? Last edited by panZZer; 08-02-2011 at 05:28 PM.
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"Join Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and more than half a million conservatives as a member of The Heritage Foundation." 
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Uh looks to iccky to mess with, kinda like Santa Monica bay-I dont think im gonna stick my toe in that one. but perhaps some of the basic stuff you know like Mary Magdilin being turned into a whore in the custom version done by Bill Tyndale or his friend Miles Coverdale in the 14th annd 15th centuries
 American Standard Version Bible In Basic English Complete Jewish Bible Contemporary English Version English Standard Version God's Word Good News Bible Holman Christian Standard Bible Jimmy Swaggart Expositor’s Study Bible Modern King James Version New American Bible New American Standard Bible New Century Version New International Version New Jerusalem Bible New King James Version New Living Translation New Revised Standard Version New World Translation Orthodox Jewish Bible Revised Standard Version Revised Version The Amplified Bible The Message Truth For Youth World English Bible
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 (Although maybe you didn't see the previous post.) It was sent to me and I found it to be interesting and had some questions about it. I'd love to see some projections from alternative sources. Unfortunately there aren't many completely unbiased ones.
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08-02-2011, 08:41 PM
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You're losing me. Whatever you are talking about has no bearing on Scripture; only some people's perversions of it.
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Historical funding Between 1985 and 2003, Media Transparency reports that the following funders provided $57,497,537 (unadjusted for inflation) to the Heritage Foundation [4]: Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation Scaife Foundations: Sarah Mellon Scaife, Scaife Family, Carthage John M. Olin Foundation, Inc. Castle Rock Foundation JM Foundation Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation Philip M. McKenna Foundation, Inc. Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation Roe Foundation Rodney Fund Ruth and Lovett Peters Foundation Orville D. and Ruth A. Merillat Foundation Bill and Berniece Grewcock Foundation Samuel Roberts Noble Foundation William H. Donner Foundation Walton Family Foundation Armstrong Foundation John Templeton Foundation William E. Simon Foundation http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heritage_Foundation#Funding
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08-02-2011, 09:05 PM
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You don't want to get involved in this. A scholarly answer wont please him. Nor a personal or a Christian one. As you know there is more material, tangible, reputable extant fragments and manuscripts of the NT than ALL other ancient documents combined. Prof. Bruce Metzger, Princeton died in 2007. There are 3 million Google links about him. Probably more theologically liberal than you, I and many of the believers we know. Scholar of impeccable credentials categorically stated that there are no significant theological discrepancies in any of the thousands of reputable manuscripts and fragments. Last edited by sjh; 08-02-2011 at 10:04 PM.
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If you're interested in the KJV I have two recommendations, "God's Secretaries: The Making of the King James Bible" by Nicholson, an historical and political analysis of the KJV. Also Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus" a popularized scholarly discussion of biblical interpretation. Both are largely secular perspectives.
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08-02-2011, 11:52 PM
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the bible.
which tells us that methusaleh lived 969 (?) years? that moses parted the red sea? that noah placed two of each species on an ark? that jesus was a man - yet immortal - yet died like a man, yet... wait for it ... rose from the dead? need i continue? all of you are completely brainwashed, and in the midst of a dangerous obsession. sadly, you are not unique, as many people - especially americans - believe in such folderol. since i was a child, i have interacted with people like you. it has not been pleasant. additionally, you all seem to be zionists, as is a majority of our country. are you not aware of the genocide perpetrated by israel for the last 50+ years? and israel's illegal possession of nuclear weapons (200+) in violation of every nuclear arms treaty signed in the last 56 years? get a grip!
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