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Old 08-08-2011, 02:13 AM
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Yes, it should see all of it. Same with 32-bit WS2003, but I don't know if you can buy that any more.
I suspect I can get my hands on a copy for playing with.

I ran across a copy I can look at.

I don't have any reason use one for commercial needs.

It's just my mind trying to keep on top of stuff.

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Old 08-08-2011, 03:04 AM
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Windows XP x86, with PAE enabled is still only going to be able to see 4GB of ram anyways. Im not sure about Vista but I believe PAE is enabled by default on Vista yet people still have problems with the OS being able to utilize the extra RAM, as well as having some conflicts with their hardware (video card/sound card, probably driver related) so it is not without its problems.



For most users you don't need over 4GB anyways...I bet most would be bottlenecked by their CPUs before they would by RAM. Heck I do a lot of gaming and 4 is plenty for the resolutions I work with.
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:36 AM
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Windows XP x86, with PAE enabled is still only going to be able to see 4GB of ram anyways. Im not sure about Vista but I believe PAE is enabled by default on Vista yet people still have problems with the OS being able to utilize the extra RAM, as well as having some conflicts with their hardware (video card/sound card, probably driver related) so it is not without its problems.



For most users you don't need over 4GB anyways...I bet most would be bottlenecked by their CPUs before they would by RAM. Heck I do a lot of gaming and 4 is plenty for the resolutions I work with.
I run win 7 (64-bit), either 4 or 8 virtual desktops, a vnc session, either one or two virtualized (vmware) OS (ie XP and ubuntu), half-a-dozen browsers, and a word document simultaneously,

The total RAM usage is under 6 GB, usually closer to 4 GB.

I've never come close to being RAM 'bottle-necked', though I'm sure some applications will.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:58 PM
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In that Intel document that I linked, look at page (Vol 1) 2-35.

Since the PPro (1993), the only 32-bit CPU to have less than 64G of external address space was the Pentium M.

Protected-mode operation makes this work for application programs. They do not use absolute pointer addresses for memory; the memory manager maps the application addresses to real (or paged out) addresses.
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:16 PM
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Loaded MS Server 2003 (32-bit).

It saw 8 GB RAM.

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Old 08-08-2011, 11:23 PM
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Just for giggles? Your win7 x64 should see 8gb too.
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Old 08-09-2011, 12:18 AM
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Just for giggles? Your win7 x64 should see 8gb too.
Well sure. That's the easy one.

I just installed win 2003 server (32-bit)

The darn thing sees 8 GB.

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