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kerry · #**226** 08-17-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sjh

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We yield all the time.

Classical male patterns of assertive and female of submissive.

Father dealing with external world, mother with home life.

Not very radical nor inherently degrading.

Paul's message of husbands submitting to Christ and a parallelism of wife to husband. Continuing the pattern Paul states children are to yield to adults.

Hard for most folks for the past 2,000 years finding that radical or subversive.

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"So are you happy saying that wives submitting to their husbands is a bad idea? "

Finally get an answer to my question.

I'm glad that line of reasoning began to die out a few hundred years ago, because if it hadn't we'd all be serfs, serving Lords and bowing down before the King.

sjh · #**227** 08-17-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

"So are you happy saying that wives submitting to their husbands is a bad idea? "

Finally get an answer to my question.

morning.

i dont see were i have said that

i said Paul's statements do not seem very unusual to me.

and i do not find yielding so odd

you had earlier asked about women in the NT & gave a number of examples of the unusual importance they had -

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Originally Posted by sjh

However, the NT is remarkable in terms of the roles, authority and importance given to women.

Many women played prominant roles in the NT. Martha, the three Marys, the women Paul mentions in many of his epistle's etc. Also much of the postive changes in society that have benefitted all, women as well of course have been lead by Judeo-Christian values and nations.

Many, many, many of Jesus' stories involve women in prominent roles; his Mother, the women by the well, the women with the issue of blood, the first to find the tomb empty, the resurrection of Lazarus, etc.
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Last point is any evaluation must be made within the context of time and situation.

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kerry · #**228** 08-17-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sjh

i dont see were i have said that
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That was my question which you didn't answer until just now. You seem perfectly happy with submissive wives and dominant husbands.

sjh · #**229** 08-17-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

That was my question which you didn't answer until just now. You seem perfectly happy with submissive wives and dominant husbands.

I have said in a number of times before that I enjoy voluntary, trust-based submission from my wife.

Not answering questions ...

In response to your earlier questions I have shown you the unique, elevated status of NT women.

You are the one who has not been responding to my inquiries,

that's what wrote about yesterday where only response was to express great umbrage...

"I'm shocked, shocked, to learn that there is gambling going on in this place."

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Originally Posted by sjh

Jeez kerry,

Is this how you teach your students to think and discourse.

You make a 200+ word statement. I respond in detail to your statement &

POOF

you jump on to something else.

I'll gladly discuss this and any other topic after we complete the prior one.

left out because kerry complained about it

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