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Old 08-13-2011, 07:59 AM
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There must be something in the water in Phoenix

Sure, I say, "open carry" is a good law. Why is it again some of us think allowing just anyone to carry a gun is stupid?

Getting shot in a grocery store? It happens. Shooting yourself in a grocery store while putting away your girlfriend's PINK pistol? Dude, you need to turn in your "man" card. Oh wait, you already did. "Clean up in aisle 4"

http://azstarnet.com/news/blogs/police-beat/article_dc342756-c1f5-11e0-88f5-001cc4c002e0.html
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:41 AM
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Ouchhhhh!

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The problem with gun laws, sorry I'm generall against guns, is they don't include an intelligence test. Although they would disqualify 70% of the applicants.
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i'll agree with that 100%.you should also have to have a qualifying test to see if you can actually hit a target.
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:00 AM
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To drive a car you need to show some minimal competence. As a gun owner I see no conflict between a basic firearms skills test and the second amendment. As it stands right now, pretty much the only firearms training available to most people comes with a large dose of NRA right wing BS at no additional cost.
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:13 AM
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To drive a car you need to show some minimal competence. As a gun owner I see no conflict between a basic firearms skills test and the second amendment. As it stands right now, pretty much the only firearms training available to most people comes with a large dose of NRA right wing BS at no additional cost.
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:10 AM
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Sure, I say, "open carry" is a good law. Why is it again some of us think allowing just anyone to carry a gun is stupid?

Getting shot in a grocery store? It happens. Shooting yourself in a grocery store while putting away your girlfriend's PINK pistol? Dude, you need to turn in your "man" card. Oh wait, you already did. "Clean up in aisle 4"

http://azstarnet.com/news/blogs/police-beat/article_dc342756-c1f5-11e0-88f5-001cc4c002e0.html
A little Darwinism going on here? Natural selection? Only problem was it wasnt fatal!!

The story reminds me of this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDTYsJxHS1s
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:33 AM
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Hey, hey . . . now I'm going to be on alert for wacky Tuscon newz . . .
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:30 PM
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Hey, hey . . . now I'm going to be on alert for wacky Tuscon newz . . .
Why would I care about anything which happens in TUSCON?

Isn't that the town somewheres in Baja, Arizona? You know, the one south of Pheonix.

Watch yerself there Swampie, LOTS of oddball stuff happens up there in your neck of the woods!
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:42 PM
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Watch yerself there Swampie, LOTS of oddball stuff happens up there in your neck of the woods!
The hell you say.
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Old 08-13-2011, 04:52 PM
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Heck, let's just go with AZ in general.
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The problem with gun laws is that they don't take into account the fact, and it is a fact that has been proven countless times in the past and will continue to be proven in the future, that no matter how smart the owner is in hiding the gun it seems that any 5 year old can find it and shoot his friend
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:24 PM
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The problem with gun laws is that they don't take into account the fact, and it is a fact that has been proven countless times in the past and will continue to be proven in the future, that no matter how smart the owner is in hiding the gun it seems that any 5 year old can find it and shoot his friend
Not any five year old, just the one's with parents who have crappy parenting skills.
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:04 PM
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The problem with gun laws is that they don't take into account the fact, and it is a fact that has been proven countless times in the past and will continue to be proven in the future, that no matter how smart the owner is in hiding the gun it seems that any 5 year old can find it and shoot his friend
Not at my house unless the 5 year old develops proficient safe cracking skills. In that case I'd be a bit more worried about why they wanted the gun in the first place!

People are idiots, in a case like this it makes for one heck of a funny news story!

Said pistol was probably a little Kel Tec or something similar, they have a really long heavy trigger pull but other than that no safety's. In theory if its stored in its holster its impossible for an accidental discharge, in theory.

I don't really trust such designs because triggers can always be accidentally pulled, I won't own a pistol without a positive safety that blocks the trigger, like a 1911, for example.

Even the lauded Glock safety trigger, plenty of people have shot themselves with their own Glock.
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:13 PM
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Since were talking about pink guns:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246856787
This Walther is a better design, it has a hammer drop and positive safety on the upper slide, which is very European. Same as a 92FS and Mak. I like this design, if the trigger catches when you shove it down your pants you won't shoot your penis off!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=247023713
This is what I bet his wife had, or something similar. All the cheap little .380's/9's have about the same battery of arms. Notice the trigger is very far out in the guard, almost like a toy gun. The reason for this is for a long heavy pull which in theory makes accidental discharges impossible. Also you carry them in a holster which covers the trigger. Still if the trigger is pulled it will go off.

The reason for this design is because its easier to make and less training intensive. A manual safety must be swept off for the weapon to function, and in a stressful situation that may not happen. When you consider someone 20ft away with a knife can stick you with in in only a few seconds, not remembering to sweep the safety can be the difference between life and death.

This is why most law enforcement agencies issue Glocks, they are less training intensive than everything else, because quite frankly most cops don't shoot anywhere near enough. With a Glock its just point and click, nothing to remember, and the 17's they are issued have close to bottomless mags.
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