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Old 08-28-2011, 01:31 PM
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I get a kick out of people who consider it an insult to suggest that we evolved from chimps or anything like chimps.
We did NOT evolve from chimps, well maybe you did.
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:49 PM
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Whether it is an insult or not who cares. You cannot fight science. People did not like the idea that the earth was not the center of the universe/solar system. It's not and they just had to get over it. We have a common ancestor with primates. That's just the way it is. A few whack jobs not believing it does not negate the facts.
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:55 PM
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Whether it is an insult or not who cares. You cannot fight science. People did not like the idea that the earth was not the center of the universe/solar system. It's not and they just had to get over it. We have a common ancestor with primates. That's just the way it is. A few whack jobs not believing it does not negate the facts.
Your so called facts are changing daily.
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:25 AM
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Your so called facts are changing daily.
They're evolving. Hah!
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Where are the cookies with no nuts in them! Friend left choc-o-chip cookies on counter here at work. read the package, yep, "may contain peanuts or tree nuts" Darn.
Seriously, since man became self-aware, I suspect he has been pondering those questions
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Where are the cookies with no nuts in them! Friend left choc-o-chip cookies on counter here at work. read the package, yep, "may contain peanuts or tree nuts" Darn.
Seriously, since man became self-aware, I suspect he has been pondering those questions
ponder what? whether we have nuts or are nuts?
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Whether it is an insult or not who cares. You cannot fight science. People did not like the idea that the earth was not the center of the universe/solar system. It's not and they just had to get over it. We have a common ancestor with primates. That's just the way it is. A few whack jobs not believing it does not negate the facts.
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We did NOT evolve from chimps, well maybe you did.
I didn't mean to suggest that we evolved from chimps. I just think it's funny when people get offended when someone says that we did. I have not studied evolution since high school biology class (1972-73 school year!), although I read the occasional article now and then. My understanding is that we did not evolve from chimps, but we share a common ancestor. Or something like that.

It would not bother me in the least to learn that we did evolve from chimps. Would it bother you? If so, why?
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:37 AM
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I didn't mean to suggest that we evolved from chimps. I just think it's funny when people get offended when someone says that we did. I have not studied evolution since high school biology class (1972-73 school year!), although I read the occasional article now and then. My understanding is that we did not evolve from chimps, but we share a common ancestor. Or something like that.

It would not bother me in the least to learn that we did evolve from chimps. Would it bother you? If so, why?
In the religious view, especially jewish, christian and muslim, humans are a special creation, we are "other" than the rest of nature. The rest of nature was put here by god for our benefit. What a happy way of seeing things. Since we're outside and not a part of nature, we can exploit it all we want and yet don't have to take responsibility for anything that happens to it.
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In the religious view, especially jewish, christian and muslim, humans are a special creation, we are "other" than the rest of nature. The rest of nature was put here by god for our benefit. What a happy way of seeing things. Since we're outside and not a part of nature, we can exploit it all we want and yet don't have to take responsibility for anything that happens to it.
It's sure fire proof that the religion developed after human stopped being hunter gatherers and started being farmers/herders. It is the ideology of farmers/herders.
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It's sure fire proof that the religion developed after human stopped being hunter gatherers and started being farmers/herders. It is the ideology of farmers/herders.
I don't disagree, but would say religion expanded and was elaborated after ag developed. I still see it's roots pre-ag. What else explains elaborate Neanderthal burials, complete with personal items carefully arranged? While they didn't have as much time to sit around contemplating the infinite, I still think hunter-gatherers were thinking about the big questions:
Who am I?
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In the religious view, especially jewish, christian and muslim, humans are a special creation, we are "other" than the rest of nature. The rest of nature was put here by god for our benefit. What a happy way of seeing things. Since we're outside and not a part of nature, we can exploit it all we want and yet don't have to take responsibility for anything that happens to it.
That last part sounds like something Rush Limbaugh would say, but I don't think you'll hear it from any honest Christians.

For years, I believed reports that James Watt, Secretary of the Interior under Reagan, said that we don't have to protect the environment because Jesus will return and we will be leave this Earth behind. When I heard that he supposedly said that, I thought it was the most perverse thing I ever heard. If Jesus is coming back, don't we want the place to be in good shape for him? As it turns out, Watt never said any such thing. Here's his actual quote:
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...On Feb. 5, 1981, Watt told a congressional oversight committee he believed his job was "to be steward for the natural resources for this generation as well as future generations. I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns, whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to have the resources needed for future generations."...

http://motherjones.com/politics/2003/09/ungreening-america-dirty-secrets
He was still a terrible Secretary of the Interior, but maybe not the religious nut job I thought he was.
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