You won't find the truth in that youtube clip, either.

Here is her full quote:The text of the bill has never been hidden. She was referring to the fog of misinformation being spread by people like the one who edited that youtube clip. That fog, according to Pelosi, made it difficult for people to know what the new law would do. Opponents of the bill were saying that all these bad things would happen if it passed. She was making the point that the proof would be in the pudding. Once the bill was passed, people would come to realize that its opponents had been feeding them a bunch of baloney.

That youtube clip is misleading.

So what's your point? Is the video a fake? All the other parts of your quote do NOT disspell the fact that this dumb lady expects people to pass a bill BEFORE they find out what is IN the bill! How INSANE can you possibly get?

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Of course not. It's just edited in a misleading way.That's not what I get from her full quote. Others can read her words and judge for themselves. To someone reading her words and taking them at face value, the only reasonable interpretation is that she was making a valid political point. Consider the context. Congress was about to vote on a controversial bill. People were saying crazy things about it. (Remember "death panels"?) Pelosi was pointing out that those opponents were going to look rather silly once the bill was signed into law and none of those terrible things happened. In fact, in her opinion, a bunch of good things would happen. At that point, the fog of death panels will have been lifted and people will realize that the GOP fed them a bunch of crap.

A fair person can disagree with her about the substance of the health care law and can criticize the compressed time for getting the bill through Congress, but no fair person can suggest that Pelosi intended to for the bill to remain secret until after the vote. For one thing, I doubt that there would be a legal way to do that. For another, if that was her intent, would she really be bragging about it?As insane as the next guy, I guess.

I gave the full quote. How is that re-writing history? What an insulting comment.

You are entitled to your interpretation. Fortunately, we have people here who can read the English language and see what she really said.

So please enlighten sj and I. Just WHAT did you she say that disspells her statement saying that once it's passed, you can then read it.

As far as I'm concerned, that statement was normal behavior and rhetoric for her. She's NUTS!

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She is a great and historic American. She is to the left of most Americans, but that's the preference of the people who keep electing her. I have a friend who has worked on the GOP side of the House for decades. She is a strong Republican. Her boss represents a VERY conservative district. She has great admiration for Pelosi, as do I.

By the way, all those San Francisco gays, drag queens, and lefties who keep electing Pelosi? They are just as American as you and I.

[QUOTE=Honus;2804617]She is a great and historic American. She is to the left of most Americans, but that's the preference of the people who keep electing her. I have a friend who has worked on the GOP side of the House for decades. She is a strong Republican. Her boss represents a VERY conservative district. She has great admiration for Pelosi, as do I.

By the way, all those San Francisco gays, drag queens, and lefties who keep electing Pelosi? They are just as American as you and I.[/QUOTE]


I couldn't agree more. They are Americans too. The only difference is that they are NUTS too, or they wouldn't elect this nutty woman.

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The nation said that? If you say so. After all, you lived through it, unlike myself.

AGAIN, very well and accurately stated.

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Actually, I don't think the discussion started with Pelosi's statement. I think she make her statement near the very end of the process, just before the vote. That aside, the changes you keep making your depiction of Pelosi's statements are getting you closer and closer to the truth. A few more posts and maybe you will get all the way there.

I get the last word? Sweet. In that case, let's close with a great quote from Robert Frost:Not directly on point, but not totally irrelevant, either.

So what you're saying is that nobody either knew the contents of the bill, or even wanted anyone to know that, but pass it anyway. And were supposed to have something other than contempt for these idiots?

- Peter.

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Yes, that's exactly what they did. You are right, it's difficult not to have contempt for the whole bunch of idiots in Congress on both sides of the aisle. The inmates are running the asylum.

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Really? You base your contempt on what sjh says? No offense to sjh, but you seem smart enough to learn the facts for yourself.

First off. I happen to think that the US health care system is crap and needs radical change. The idea that the supposededly most advanced country on the planet is unable to provide the worlds leading health care for it's citizenry independently of the vagaries of industry and the necessity of massive incomes or bankruptcy is preposterous.

However, the idea that it's acceptable to stuff a gigantic piece of legislation thru government without anyone knowing what's in it in an ideologically driven pretense of "fixiing" the problem is even more so. I have not read the bill, neither have you. It's not possible to read it in any meaningful way given how huge it is which is why so many of the supposed "leaders" have no clue what all it's ramifications are. It is inexcusable to pretend that government can function effectively like that which is part of the reason Washington is in the mess it's in. That is a piss poor piece of work on the part of the clowns who dreamed up this bill and rammed it thru.

- Peter.

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