BillyBob Wants to Kill the Pretty Girls Thread

[panZZer]

I for one-always suspected he was queer.

Iam a big fan of selective enforcement, leave us 1 troll I say,


















fowler would be my choice.

[Billybob]

Originally Posted by PaulC

....Are you, or are you not indicating the proximity of specific moderators to posts/threads containing TOU violations in which the offending member was not cited? Are you, or are you not implying that those moderators were derelict in their duty, or exhibiting some form of favoritism or other bias when the offender was not cited?

Yes.

You are infereing an implication that has not been made, I've noted the disparity and questioned it's origins.

[davidmash]

Im really not sure what all the whining is about. This is a privately owned web site. The owners can enforce what ever rules they want how ever fairly or unfairly they want. If they do not want anyone named David to post here that is their prerogative. If they want to ban you yet again for being you that is also their prerogative. They do not need to be consistent nor do they owe anyone an explanation. If you do not like the way the game is played then dont play.

You sound lime sh but with a more pretentious writing style. Either deal with it and stop whining or leave. I dont think anyone here cares which.

[PaulC]

Originally Posted by Billybob

Yes.

You are inferring an implication that has not been made, I've noted the disparity and questioned it's origins.

This is your statement?

Originally Posted by Billybob

I do find it very amusing that some of the most virulent and demanding of “forum law and order” characters not only regularly violate this ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT TOU provision but they also seem to enjoy immunity from doing so! That in the process it exposes some hypocrisy is priceless.

It's more than just an implication; it's a flat-out assertion of moderator bias! Surely you can come up with just one example over the past few weeks of the behavior you're referring to above!

[Billybob]

Originally Posted by PaulC

This is your statement?



It's more than just an implication; it's a flat-out assertion of moderator bias! Surely you can come up with just one example over the past few weeks of the behavior you're referring to above!

HA! HA! HA! You better take a deep breath PaulyC!

Your post of copyrighted material in violation of the TOU Copyright Restriction Enhanced Enforcement remains, maybe the moderators are waiting for you to tell on yourself first!

At least one OD moderator has apparently viewed the page and its postings as evidenced by his commentary on the posters "taking pot shots at each other" and threatened "If it continues like that we'll just lock it down."

It is been explained by a moderator that sjh posted copyrighted material in violation of the TOU provisions and the moderators deleted that material, you have posted copyrighted material in violation of the TOU and moderators have not deleted it. That is a disparity, the cause of which is not known to me.

Two of the three OD moderators have posted to the thread's page after your posting of copyrighted material, perhaps it's as simple as they post to threads without reviewing or reading prior postings and are unaware. As I suspect the vast majority of forum members don't feel the need to covertly contacting the moderators feigning offence at the posting by another of copyrighted material in violation of the TOU, perhaps until you report yourself or one of your similarly like minded fellows does the disparity will remain.

[MTI]

wow dude, that's like totally unfair. no wonder you're bum'd.

[Billybob]

Originally Posted by davidmash

Im really not sure what all the whining is about. This is a privately owned web site. The owners can enforce what ever rules they want how ever fairly or unfairly they want. If they do not want anyone named David to post here that is their prerogative. If they want to ban you yet again for being you that is also their prerogative. They do not need to be consistent nor do they owe anyone an explanation. If you do not like the way the game is played then dont play.

You sound lime sh but with a more pretentious writing style. Either deal with it and stop whining or leave. I dont think anyone here cares which.

Thanks sweetheart! If I ever need a bag of peanuts or a pillow I'll be sure to let you know, otherwise I'll continue to make fun of you or ignore you as the spirit moves me!

[JollyRoger]

Cheese? Does anyone smell cheese?

[layback40]

Originally Posted by PaulC

It would be like killing Mom, apple pie and strip clubs...

I hope as a red blooded male Billy lets it be.

To go after the pretty girls thread would need some one to be gay.
If they wanted to I guess they could always start a pretty boys thread!!!

[TylerH860]

I've never taken any moderation action against anyone for copyright violations because I don't really understand it myself. Coincidentally we have been discussing it in the moderator forums as well.

The post was reported by the former moderator that wrote the enhanced TOU and another moderator acted based on the current TOU setup. It was not politically bent, it was only acted upon because it was reported. Obviously this is not a perfect system, but we are human and imperfect individuals trying to do the best we can.

Bill (the former owner and webmaster) was very worried about getting in trouble for copyright violations by members posts and ask that we step it up. This seemed to be only with text, not pictures or graphs. The new owners have looked at the same laws and have a more Laissez faire attitude towards it. It seems the posters are liable for copyright infringement and we are insulated as a mere conduit, but there's no clear definition as to what constitutes crossing the line.

This is something we are discussing and hope to have a clean cut resolution on soon.

[TylerH860]

What I have never understood, Billybob, is why the hell you are always so critical of us. There are so many other greater injustices in the world than our imperfect moderating style yet you spend so much time and energy postulating that we are politically bent, reactive, hypocritical, bumbling idiots. You've been banned once for getting too critical with us yet you continue to do so.

I've made this suggestion once before and I'll say it again. Find a better use of your time and intellect. We are volunteers doing this for free with good intentions trying to keep a fun OD atmosphere while keeping with the wishes of the ownership to the best of our ability. So far no moderator has ever met your high standards, but you get what you pay for. We are not perfect individuals and never will be. Sometimes we do things inconsistently, but C'est la vie.

[Billybob]

Originally Posted by TylerH860

I've never taken any moderation action against anyone for copyright violations because I don't really understand it myself. Coincidentally we have been discussing it in the moderator forums as well.

The post was reported by the former moderator that wrote the enhanced TOU and another moderator acted based on the current TOU setup. It was not politically bent, it was only acted upon because it was reported. Obviously this is not a perfect system, but we are human and imperfect individuals trying to do the best we can.

Bill (the former owner and webmaster) was very worried about getting in trouble for copyright violations by members posts and ask that we step it up. This seemed to be only with text, not pictures or graphs. The new owners have looked at the same laws and have a more Laissez faire attitude towards it. It seems the posters are liable for copyright infringement and we are insulated as a mere conduit, but there's no clear definition as to what constitutes crossing the line.

This is something we are discussing and hope to have a clean cut resolution on soon.

Damn, so TomW reported that sjh violated TOU provision?

And it wasn't a group decision as a moderator stated, it was a single moderator that decided it was a violation?

And the violation was only for the cut and paste of the copy righted written text portion not the cut and past of the copy righted text/picture as a moderator stated?

And when you state that it was not "politically bent" are you refering only to the decision that it was a violation? Or has the the person who reported the sjh posting as a alleged violation also been reporting any other alleged violations?

"There was an initial complaint regarding the post that led to all this. The complaint was that Forum copy write rules/regulations had been broken. We as moderators discussed how to handle the posting. We interpreted that the cut/paste of Copyrighted text/picture is against the rules for posting. We discussed various ways on how to handle the posting and one of the ways was to delete everything except the first few words of the title and leave the link in post #1 which is what I did. "

[TylerH860]

There was a discussion that I was not involved in until much later. We are still discussing the matter.

What's obvious is SJH overreacted to having is graph deleted and had a massive melt down, then starting deleting every one of his posts and wanted us to completely delete his account. This very benign action (justified or not) did not excuse his incredible reaction.

[Billybob]

Originally Posted by TylerH860

What I have never understood, Billybob, is why the hell you are always so critical of us. There are so many other greater injustices in the world than our imperfect moderating style yet you spend so much time and energy postulating that we are politically bent, reactive, hypocritical, bumbling idiots. You've been banned once for getting too critical with us yet you continue to do so.

I've made this suggestion once before and I'll say it again. Find a better use of your time and intellect. We are volunteers doing this for free with good intentions trying to keep a fun OD atmosphere while keeping with the wishes of the ownership to the best of our ability. So far no moderator has ever met your high standards, but you get what you pay for. We are not perfect individuals and never will be. Sometimes we do things inconsistently, but C'est la vie.

Your ad hominem is noted.

[PaulC]

Originally Posted by Billybob

HA! HA! HA! You better take a deep breath PaulyC!

Your post of copyrighted material in violation of the TOU Copyright Restriction Enhanced Enforcement remains, maybe the moderators are waiting for you to tell on yourself first!

At least one OD moderator has apparently viewed the page and its postings as evidenced by his commentary on the posters "taking pot shots at each other" and threatened "If it continues like that we'll just lock it down."

It is been explained by a moderator that sjh posted copyrighted material in violation of the TOU provisions and the moderators deleted that material, you have posted copyrighted material in violation of the TOU and moderators have not deleted it. That is a disparity, the cause of which is not known to me.

Two of the three OD moderators have posted to the thread's page after your posting of copyrighted material, perhaps it's as simple as they post to threads without reviewing or reading prior postings and are unaware. As I suspect the vast majority of forum members don't feel the need to covertly contacting the moderators feigning offence at the posting by another of copyrighted material in violation of the TOU, perhaps until you report yourself or one of your similarly like minded fellows does the disparity will remain.

Fell for it. Now you're making a veiled accusation regarding two moderators.