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Old 03-02-2012, 04:26 PM
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But its ok for her to appear under fraudulent circumstances. ...
What circumstances are those?

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Old 03-02-2012, 04:54 PM
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You'd hold as a role model? She's a planted DNC radical activist who isn't a sweet 23 years old but is 30.
Anytime did you wonder how many other women testified?
Answer-none
Isn't that more than past recent hearing testimony?

Assuming it was a "setup" . . . you'd think a big grown up radio personality would have figured it out and not taken the bait. He didn't and it wouldn't have mattered, based on the statements he made, had she been 21, 31, or 41 . . . it woudn't have mattered. He reduced the conservative position to crude, rude, hateful speech, which has basically backfired.

So far, three advertisers have canceled their advertising and dropped their support of Rush Limbaugh’s show. The first was The Sleep Train, and just a few hours ago, Sleep Number announced they were dropping Limbaugh also. Just minutes ago, Quicken Loans announced it had “suspended” its advertising on Limbaugh’s show as well.

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Old 03-02-2012, 05:32 PM
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What circumstances are those?
She was a 23 yr old co-ed, turned out media was making the claim, she didn't say that in Congress. My bad.
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:36 PM
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Isn't that more than past recent hearing testimony? Assuming it was a "setup" . . . you'd think a big grown up radio personality would have figured it out. He didn't and it wouldn't have mattered, based on the statements he made. She could have been 21, 31, or 41 . . . it woudn't have mattered.
Limbaugh is an issue because DNC always trys to make him the face of the GOP. Hes not.
I see no indignation on the left when others make similar statements to persons on the right and you must realize that is the norm.

Like Limbaugh said, will Obama give back the Million he got from Bill Mather?
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:37 PM
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Sandra Fluke is a 30 year old Georgetown U. law student. These statements about wanting to have too much sex or sex without consequences and assuming she's speaking only about birth control show an alarming lack of understanding about oral contraceptives and how and what they're used for among some posters here.
I'd be proud to have a daughter like her. I'd hold her up as a role model to my girls in a heartbeat.
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:53 PM
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I forgot not getting pregnant was the most serious item facing the country these days.

Obama created the issue.

GOP got dems on record on the issue didn't they?
It's not an issue about getting pregnant. That's a right-wing induced sideshow about overall medical care.

For whatever reason, people don't like the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare) when it's described as such but they do like the major portions of it. This is basically like saying I don't like Mercedes as a car, but I want a reliable older diesel that easy to work on, but I'll never buy a Mercedes because I don't like 'em.

Access to a specific subset of prescription drugs taken by women (aka 'birth control') has been raised as a hotbutton issue. Yes, the typical use of oral contraceptives is for the prevention of conception. However, they are a set of drugs that affect the release of hormones. As such, they have other medical purposes and may be prescribed, after seeing a doctor, for these purposes. You may not know this, so I'll provide a reference: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/Beyond-Birth-Control.pdf#page=4

Typically, if you see a doctor and get a prescription, that is covered by medical insurance. Unless it's "birth control" apparently.

Limbaugh seems stunned at the cost. As a convicted felon and prescription drug abuser, this surprises me. I thought he'd be more aware of the market for prescription drugs and how much they cost.

Several years ago, US News compared the costs of birth control methods. Guess what? Presciption oral contraceptives in 2010 were estimated to cost up to $600 per year. Add in one or two doctor's visits per year in order to have a checkup and renew the prescription, and some inflation, and now $1000 per year for seeing a doctor isn't so outlandish. http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/alpha-consumer/2010/08/27/the-real-cost-of-birth-control-

Compare the concept of seeing a doctor, getting a prescription for drugs that control the release of powerful hormones within your body that serves different purposes and can affect quality of life on an ongoing basis and not just for reproductive purposes to the concept of an elective surgery that has the exclusive purpose of preventing pregnancy: a vasectomy.

Vasectomies are covered by most insurance policies. Viagra and other ED drugs are covered by many policies - erectile dysfunction is, after all a "recognized medical condition." So it's okay for insurance companies to pay for medication and treatment for the exclusive purpose of enabling men to have sex and reducing the consequences, but it's inappropriate to provide drugs or medication that serve more than just that purpose (although that IS the primary purpose) for women?

That's not unfair or discriminatory at all.

The "issue" is a strawman for the overall concept of affordable health care - which people really do seem to want - but it's being framed in the context of an over-reaching and intrusive government - which people don't want.

That's why "prescription medication" is somehow a religious freedom issue and no female "religious experts" were permitted to testify at the hearing on birth control.

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Old 03-02-2012, 06:08 PM
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Limbaugh is an issue because DNC always trys to make him the face of the GOP. Hes not.
Then the leadership and membership of the GOP should have no hesitation in immediately and unanimously disavowing the statements and the show . . .

umm, the GOP presidential candiates should have no problem directly distancing themselves from Mr. Limbaugh . . . urp . . . .

The GOP's women's caucus . . . hmm

The strongest rebuke from the House speaker . . . "inappropriate." Wow, that's a stunning rebuke.

About the closest thing to a severe finger wagging at Mr. Limbaugh was from Carly Fiorina, who ran in California . . .

It's incendiary and most of all, it's a distraction. It's a distraction from what are very real and important issues," the former chief executive of Hewlett-Packard said.



Calling someone's daughter, wife, sister, mother, girlfriend or friend a slut and a prostitute, without even meeting or knowing that woman, will resulti in some sort of beating

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Then the leadership and membership of the GOP should have no hesitation in immediately and unanimously disavowing the statements and the show . . .

umm, the GOP presidential candiates should have no problem directly distancing themselves from Mr. Limbaugh . . . urp . . . .

The GOP's women's caucus . . . hmm

The strongest rebuke from the House speaker . . . "inappropriate." Wow, that's a stunning rebuke.

About the closest thing to a severe finger wagging at Mr. Limbaugh was from Carly Fiorina, who ran in California . . .

It's incendiary and most of all, it's a distraction. It's a distraction from what are very real and important issues," the former chief executive of Hewlett-Packard said.



Calling someone's daughter, wife, sister, mother, girlfriend or friend a slut and a prostitute, without even meeting or knowing that woman, will resulti in some sort of beating
No doubt, but if its against Sarah Palin or any other Con, we get a free pass. Look up some of the slanders to women in the Con movement from the left and justify that.

Do you think Obama will return Maher's money?
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Old 03-02-2012, 06:57 PM
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I'm sorry, its the damn dog again.

Great pic, I had to send that to a friend of mine. He's both a computer geek (no front panel on his PC either) and loves dogs, so it's a double win for him.
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:13 PM
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...For whatever reason, people don't like the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare) when it's described as such but they do like the major portions of it. This is basically like saying I don't like Mercedes as a car, but I want a reliable older diesel that easy to work on, but I'll never buy a Mercedes because I don't like 'em....
That's good. I am going to steal that line.
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:13 PM
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No doubt, but if its against Sarah Palin or any other Con, we get a free pass. Look up some of the slanders to women in the Con movement from the left and justify that.

Do you think Obama will return Maher's money?
I think I've already said this . . . had Limbaugh gone after a politician, celebrity or other notable, this would have been a non-event . . . heck, he derisively called Danica Patrick a "woman driver" . . . but he didn't, he went over the line after "a civilian" . . . and as a result has made her a celeb. When did Maher do that?
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:24 PM
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Great pic, I had to send that to a friend of mine. He's both a computer geek (no front panel on his PC either) and loves dogs, so it's a double win for him.
Cut me in on a little royalty for dog food? LOL

He always goes for the Rin Tin Tin and Lassie sites.
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I think I've already said this . . . had Limbaugh gone after a politician, celebrity or other notable, this would have been a non-event . . . heck, he derisively called Danica Patrick a "woman driver" . . . but he didn't, he went over the line after "a civilian" . . . and as a result has made her a celeb. When did Maher do that?
Civilian? How about DNC political hack. Nancys girl.
What Sandy into, reproductive justice?
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Civilian? How about DNC political hack. Nancys girl.
What Sandy into, reproductive justice?
Sez you, so sez the blogosphere . . . but what a tiny miniscule world that is, pretty much it's own reality.

Back in the real world, it's an overweight guy with a national radio show calling somebody's daughter a slut and a prostitute. Guess who wins.
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Just gimme her phone # and the hell with rest.

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