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ah-kay · #31 03-13-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Smokers should be put into concentration camps and gassed with their own fumes.

They would be having one hell of a good time. Have you seen smokers congregating in the 'Smoking Room' at the Airports? They all puff away happily and getting double dose for free.

PaulC · #32 03-13-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

How does the exhaust from your car compare to the exhaust from a cigarette?

I'm sick of all the gassers clouding up my air. They should be forced to park outside of the cities and walk in.

If I'm in a restaurant, I usually don't have to worry about someone leaving their '67 Impala running at the next table....

dseretakis · #33 03-13-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Exhaling smoke into a public place . . . when you consider it, how far removed is it from spitting, coughing or sneezing in that same public space?

Spitting is disgusting and should incur a penalty but coughing and sneezing are uncontrollable human reflexes- well sneezing. Smoking is voluntary and unecessary as well as detrimental to others.

MTI · #34 03-13-2012, 01:05 PM

I believe that most people have a pet peeve about smokers that believe that cigarette butts are not only biodegradable (filters not so much) but also constitute nutrient rich mulch and an attractive alternative to pristine beach sand or grass medians.

MS Fowler · #35 03-13-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Have you ever had someone close to you die of lung cancer? I would call it much more than an "irritant", it is a violently poisonous combination of cancer-causing gas, and is of use only to those people who are stupid enough to trade decades of their lives for a mouthful of smoke, and they need to keep such an incredible level of stupidity strictly to their own selves, and the hell away from me and mine.

Are you missing the point on purpose? I said that IF its only an irritant, then there is no need for a law. If it is indeed a health risk then a law is required. Sometimes you get so wired up you don't read too well.
Yes, I have had someone close to me die of lung cancer, and I probably have few more that will. This discussion was on second hand smoke.

dseretakis · #36 03-13-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

I believe that most people have a pet peeve about smokers that believe that cigarette butts are not only biodegradable (filters not so much) but also constitute nutrient rich mulch and an attractive alternative to pristine beach sand or grass medians.

True.

Stoneseller · #37 03-13-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

I am still trying to get beyond the concept that being a nicotine drug addict s OK in the eyes of the law but being a THC addict is not. Once we iron out that little discrepancy we can then move on to the issue of whether or not nicotine addicts should be able to get their drug fix in public or not.

Interesting observation.
In my youth I was addicted to both.
In my early 30s I slowed my THC consumption because it is illegal. I eventually kicked the habit completely.

Nicotine was much tougher. I had to have a heart attack to figure out the time to kick the habit had arrived. That was in my early 50s.

Jim B. · #38 03-13-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

How does the exhaust from your car compare to the exhaust from a cigarette?

I'm sick of all the gassers clouding up my air. They should be forced to park outside of the cities and walk in.

What about all the old Mercedes Benz DIESELS, "cmbdiesel"?

Do *they* get a free pass from you?

Jim B. · #39 03-13-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

I certainly don't want to breathe some nicotine addict's spew. Smokers should be put into concentration camps and gassed with their own fumes.

Have you ever asked yourself how come so few new babys in Germany get named "Adolf"?

Can't Know · #40 03-13-2012, 02:01 PM

Prop 29 in CA will increase taxes on tobacco (not sure about chaw) and thus increase the funding for more ads and education about the dangers related to smoking.

Of course the past campaigns have gotten CA to about the 10% mark, which is really amazing...and a good thing, too.

Regarding more-restrictive laws, as an asthma sufferer, I generally welcome anything that limits my involuntary exposure to unnecessary pollutants.

Viewed from a global perspective, I have to think that smoking tobacco has a negative effect on both air pollution and carbon emissions, particularly when you consider it from cradle to grave (both for smokers and tobacco). Tilling, planting, harvesting, processing, shipping, burning...there's a lot there, particularly considering it's a product that has no real benefits. But the tobacco lobby has lots of power in the legislatures, so those are considerations best left...unconsidered.

I don't often see people who smoke. And for the greenies who tend to populate certain areas of the golden state and smoke, I wonder if they'd appreciate the irony of increasing global warming...while shortening their life and exercising their individual rights to pollute not just the air I breathe, but the planet.

Probably not.

duxthe1 · #41 03-13-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

As a society, we tolerate the consequences of alcohol and of tobacco. Other drugs are not tolerated (unless administered by a physician). No good reason unless you consider alcohol and tobacco to be relatively benign as compared to other drugs.

In terms of harm and addiction alcochol ranks 4th behind meth, crack, and heroin. Nicotine ranks 6th. Cannabis doesn't even break into the top ten.

JollyRoger · #42 03-13-2012, 02:18 PM

I think anyone can see alcohol is the worst drug of all. I've just never known very many potheads who go home after a binge and beat the crap out of their old lady, or take out a van load of kids. Meth and crack may cause the same types of behavior, but your average speed freak only lives a few years after being hooked, with alcohol it goes on for years and years. We need to get all the alcoholics hooked on smack, and then make alcohol illegal and give smack away for free.

ah-kay · #43 03-13-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

I think anyone can see alcohol is the worst drug of all.

+ 1

Collectively, alcohol is the worst drug. It ruins too many lives as an alcoholic can affect a lot of people around him/her, or kill somebody due to drunk driving. And too many of drunks and it is legal !!

Individually, crack, meth, heroin is the worst.

Smoking probably is something in between.

chilcutt · #44 03-13-2012, 02:44 PM

Uh guys...could we get back on topic please?

JollyRoger · #45 03-13-2012, 02:47 PM

Addiction is definitely on topic. Scientifically, nicotine is the most addictive drug known to man. Even heroin addicts don't need a fix every twenty minutes.

Speaking of heroin addicts, heroin is socially not that bad a drug when it is legal and easy to get, heroin addicts are docile little muffins when they don't have to steal. They can even drive much better than drunks can.