Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 2929138)

Why did unicorns and dragons get left off the boat? :(:(

Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 2929117)

I'm going to assume you asked a serious question, and answer it seriously.
There are several answers.
Some scholars note in Genesis 1:2 " the earth was formless and void", and take a hard look at the word "void", or empty. Compare that with every other instance of God's creative work, where it is always said " It was good". Taking a few other passages from Scripture, they believe that the creation account we have is really a "re-creation" that there was an earlier creation ( a gap between the first 2 verses) that was destroyed when Satan was cast to the earth. It may not be satisfying to you, but it is one of the answers given.
Another answer is that the flood materially changed earth. Note there was no record of rainfall prior to the flood.
Yet another is the understanding that God created with "apparent age". The easiest illustration of this would be to ask how old did Adam and Eve look one day after their creation? They probably were created as mature; not as infants. The argument then goes on to use that same line to explain all the fossil and geological record.

There may be others, but those are a few ways that Biblical literalists understand the Genesis account.

Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2929178)

That was on the spot and correct.

Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2929178)

That was on the spot and correct.

Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2929190)

Is it necessary to discard science and reason altogether in order to have personal faith in Jesus? If it is, why?

Originally Posted by aklim (Post 2929194)

Concerning that, I woul say you have to suspend science and the need for Proof.

Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2929202)

It's called a leap of faith. This alleged god creates beings and gives them, supposedly unique among all living things, the power of reason. He gives them a thirst for knowledge. He gifts them with these powers and then requires that they NOT use them. He requires that they instead must believe in cheap parlor tricks as proof of his existence. This is a vain, capricious god if you ask me. One who plays games with his creations. Sets expectations for his little experiments and then goofs on them when they dare to utilize the very powers he gave them. Punishes them eternally in very un-godly and un-forgiving fashion for their screw ups.
I'll pass on that little god, until I watch an amputee re-grow a limb with the power of prayer.

Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2929188)

What's correct? He offered several explanations there. Are they ALL correct?

Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2929227)

Ok, lets not say it's a leap of faith. Lets call it a leap of complete denial of almost everything that humans have learned about natural history, species development, human evolution, human cultural development, geology, biology and technology over the last 200 years or so. To accept a literal story of the Ark would mean a person could not teach the most basic classes in Paleontology, Biology, Archaeology, History, Geology, and Physical and Cultural Anthropology. Might was well abolish the curriculum of the modern university.

Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2929190)

Is it necessary to discard science and reason altogether in order to have personal faith in Jesus? If it is, why?

Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2929202)

It's called a leap of faith. This alleged god creates beings and gives them, supposedly unique among all living things, the power of reason. He gives them a thirst for knowledge. He gifts them with these powers and then requires that they NOT use them. He requires that they instead must believe in cheap parlor tricks as proof of his existence. This is a vain, capricious god if you ask me. One who plays games with his creations. Sets expectations for his little experiments and then goofs on them when they dare to utilize the very powers he gave them. Punishes them eternally in very un-godly and un-forgiving fashion for their screw ups.

I'll pass on that little god, until I watch an amputee re-grow a limb with the power of prayer.

Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2929254)

NOT AT ALL my friend. Science is proving The Bible to be correct almost daily. Just yesterday I watched a show on the History channel where scientist now believe the humans did NOT evolve from apes. They talked about some kind of "F" dna that ONLY exist in humans. I will try to find that info. :)

Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2929246)

That is correct.