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Old 06-03-2012, 12:02 PM
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If he is going after extra large drinks wonder how long it will be before they outlaw all the "All you can eat" lunch buffets?

You don't go to one of those around here without everyone in the place looking like they are one heartbeat away from a stroke.
You should see a slice of cheesecake over at Lindy's or Stage deli.

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If he is going after extra large drinks wonder how long it will be before they outlaw all the "All you can eat" lunch buffets?

You don't go to one of those around here without everyone in the place looking like they are one heartbeat away from a stroke.
With my all-you-can-eat buffet, I would like a diet coke...
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:41 PM
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I think that he must be related to you.
I wish!!!


I respect the rest of your opinions, as misguided as they may be, but you're confusing State and Federal politics with the issues that affect NYC. This is certainly true of the 2nd Ave subway. Bloomberg lobbied long and hard for this project, but Albany felt otherwise. The buck doesn't stop with any NYC mayor when Albany has the final say.

Regarding the WTC site, once the knots were untied in the courtroom, Bloomberg facilitated many aspects of the project. He streamlined the permit application/approval/inspection process, greatly reducing the time it took to start construction, and keep down-time to a minimum. The pace of construction of both #1 and #4 World Trade Center has been nothing short of miraculous. I can see Lower Manhattan from my neighborhood, and I've been amazed at how fast #1 is going up. The cooperation of the various NYC agencies involved (all under Bloomberg's command) has allowed this pace to continue.

Concerning the anti-terrorism efforts of the NYPD, the link I provided is just one small example. There are many examples of the NYPD's counter-terrorism prowess if you take the time to look for them.

The NYPD has been sending personnel, including many street-savvy detectives, abroad, to gather intelligence since shortly after 9/11. Their use of advanced suveillance technology, in addition to their information gathering/vetting/sharing policies, have allowed them to prevent any further attacks since then. It's true that they've enlisted the general public to assist in these efforts (if you see something, say something!). That's just good police work. Representatives from several European counter-terrorism agencies, as well as others from places like Israel, Japan, South Africa, and several South American countries have come to NYC, in an effort to learn how to improve their own systems.

I'm not trying to change your overall impression of Bloomberg. I'm sure your reasoning is sound, so let's just agree to disagree, but if he wants to ban the sale of 16oz sodas who cares. If you're that thirsty then buy two 8oz drinks and enjoy them in a city that's safer and cleaner thanks to Mayor Bloomberg.
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I'm not trying to change your overall impression of Bloomberg. I'm sure your reasoning is sound, so let's just agree to disagree, but if he wants to ban the sale of 16oz sodas who cares. If you're that thirsty then buy two 8oz drinks and enjoy them in a city that's safer and cleaner thanks to Mayor Bloomberg.
My overall impression is that he's quite a bit better than the previous narcissistic individual who claimed that office.

However, my opinion of his accomplishments is jaded by his need to consistently poke at the behavior of the citizens for which he doesn't agree.

I suppose that that latter does pale in the overall evaluation of the man related to his predecessors.

We certainly could do (and have done) a lot worse.
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If you're that thirsty then buy two 8oz drinks and enjoy them in a city that's safer and cleaner thanks to Mayor Bloomberg.
Safety and cleanliness at the price of FREEDOM aren't a fair bargain. And the NYPD has had a domestic spying section since at least the late 60s. As a bridge-and-tunneler who doesn't actually live in the city, you're free to zip the hole under your nose.
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:46 AM
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We are mindlessly killing ourselves with this useless crap and we are all paying for it, some more than others. It was bad enough when it was a 12 oz sugar Coke 20 years ago- now the norm is a quart of artificially colored artificial chemicals in polluted carbonated water ( look up how they make it) , sweetened with corn syrup.

Let's talk about this , at least.

I see "kids" coming to work here first thing in the morning and eating a bag of Cheetos and a Big Gulp. For Breakfast.

I agree that people eat badly, but THEY have to correct that.
The government can't do everything for people, nor would I want it to do everything.
Just do the big, important necessary things: like: establish standards which make life in general safe and convenient-- i,e. speed limits--
police streets, prosecute robbers and violent individuals;regulate commerce (have standard freqs for phones); prevent monopolies from exploiting people (where possible)

The rest WE have to do, as humans.

I don't want the government to do like Germany did long ago, and give all the public school kids a test in 8th grade that would decide what their education and their jobs would be for life.

That's one of the things that the Allied occupation in Europe changed.

It gave people freedom to choose, as long as they are adults.
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I agree that people eat badly, but THEY have to correct that.
The government can't do everything for people, nor would I want it to do everything.
Just do the big, important necessary things: like: establish standards which make life in general safe and convenient-- i,e. speed limits--
police streets, prosecute robbers and violent individuals;regulate commerce (have standard freqs for phones); prevent monopolies from exploiting people (where possible)

The rest WE have to do, as humans.

I don't want the government to do like Germany did long ago, and give all the public school kids a test in 8th grade that would decide what their education and their jobs would be for life.

That's one of the things that the Allied occupation in Europe changed.

It gave people freedom to choose, as long as they are adults.

VERY well said Strelnik!
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...As a bridge-and-tunneler who doesn't actually live in the city, you're free to zip the hole under your nose.
I actually prefer the ferry.
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... he wants to ban soft drinks over 20 oz from being sold at restaurants and venues, but he's firmly against a bike helmet law. I'd call him a nanny-stater, yet he seems more and more like an idiosyncratic old eccentric since he's not even consistent in his nanny statism.
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