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Old 06-03-2012, 12:05 PM
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Anybody ever glaze/reseal windows?

Brand new project popped up on the lovely Mrs eng's list yesterday morning. We have stated the process of glazing/resealing the windows and will follow up with painting. I have attached a pic of where I have installed some DAP 33 Glaze to reseal around the windows. Is this the correct stuff to use? It seems that this stuff does not get real hard and seal like rtv would. I'm not sure we are going to be able to come back along and paint over this stuff? The can indicates that it will remain pliable.

Any thoughts/comments that would help me get going in the right direction. This is kinda a pia job if you ask me.
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Brand new project popped up on the lovely Mrs eng's list yesterday morning. We have stated the process of glazing/resealing the windows and will follow up with painting. I have attached a pic of where I have installed some DAP 33 Glaze to reseal around the windows. Is this the correct stuff to use? It seems that this stuff does not get real hard and seal like rtv would. I'm not sure we are going to be able to come back along and paint over this stuff? The can indicates that it will remain pliable.

Any thoughts/comments that would help me get going in the right direction. This is kinda a pia job if you ask me.
PIA is putting it lightly.
I re-did my old house before selling it and it looked like your windows or worse. I used Dap 33 and its paintable, it should say so on the can.
You feather it with a spatula its seals ok.Should be glazing points under the old glaze to hold the window too.
Busting out the old stuff resulted in a few cracked panes.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:12 PM
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I've never Glazed windows before. only Donuts. but it might be paint-able, should say on the tube/can if it is or not
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:16 PM
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It says it is paintable on the can. I'm going to proceed with the way I'm doing it. I've watched a couple youtube videos so I at least have a handle on how to do it.

This is not the type of work my mind is suited to.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:05 PM
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It says it is paintable on the can. I'm going to proceed with the way I'm doing it. I've watched a couple youtube videos so I at least have a handle on how to do it.

This is not the type of work my mind is suited to.
I've always been under the impression that you should let it cure for a few weeks before painting. It is a PITA job, I've done it plenty of times. Moistening a putty knife can help with smoothing it.
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It says it is paintable on the can. I'm going to proceed with the way I'm doing it. I've watched a couple youtube videos so I at least have a handle on how to do it.

This is not the type of work my mind is suited to.
Another thing, I if you got bare wood on the frame they advise priming for better adhesion I think. I used Zinseer 123 primer.

As an aside, you can rip out the old window and install hi tech state of the art windows in half the time to reglaze.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:31 PM
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I've gotten the one that is circled done. It is going to move along fairly well, just kinda getting up to speed with it. I think modern windows would look out of place.

I'd rather pull a dash out of a 124 than do this kind of stuff.
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I've gotten the one that is circled done. It is going to move along fairly well, just kinda getting up to speed with it. I think modern windows would look out of place.

I'd rather pull a dash out of a 124 than do this kind of stuff.
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I've gotten the one that is circled done. It is going to move along fairly well, just kinda getting up to speed with it. I think modern windows would look out of place.

I'd rather pull a dash out of a 124 than do this kind of stuff.
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I've gotten the one that is circled done. It is going to move along fairly well, just kinda getting up to speed with it. I think modern windows would look out of place.

I'd rather pull a dash out of a 124 than do this kind of stuff.
I'd rather have dull needles slowly pushed into my eyes.

Seriously, there's no easy way to glaze.

Heat gun might help loosen up the old stuff; wear a good NIOSH double cartridge respirator, as god knows what nasty old lead/oil/toxicity you will be releasing.

Prime the wood with a good oil based primer.

When glazing, keep a small amount of solvent around, and dip the putty knife into it frequently, between passes. (Keeps the knife from sticking and pulling out the glaze.)

Some folks roll the glaze around in their hands, to warm and make more pliable.

Let dry... forever! At least two to three weeks.

Then, prime with a good oil based exterior primer, and finish with a good acrylic exterior paint. Benjamin Moore has a product called "Aura". Expensive, but worth it. (and how much will you use on a labor intensive but not too demanding of material job like windows. Spend the $60 for a gallon - as opposed to the regular $35 to $40 - and you will not have to redo in a few years.)

again, it is a real PITA. (But aluminum and vinyl windows would look awful on such a beautiful old house.)
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Back about 1980 or so, my wifes twin sister and her husband lived in a BEAUTIFUL old house with LOTS of windows. We had a hail storm on a Friday night that knocked about 70 panes. He called me about 4AM Saturday and asked me to come over so we could be at the hardware store when they opened the doors. He knew they would run out of glass quick.

We were at their door with dimensions and got all our panes, old fashioned glazier's putty and some points. We had all of them done by dark and the next weekend the wives painted over the putty.

There has been SO much change in the products used for this, that I expect that today there's stuff that can be painted over immediately.

After you've done one or two with the old fashioned putty, you can put it on, scrape off a beautiful 45 degree bevel, and scrape off excess in no time. Anyone capable of overhauling an MB diesel will get the hang of it in milliSeconds! The putty knife will be as at home in your hands as a 13MM combination wrench.

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I've always had good luck with DAP33.

Best to remove all of the old glazing, which, as Duderino pointed out, will result in some broken panes. If you have old glass in the house, then it is well worth your while to acquire (unless you already have) some old glass to replace the broken ones. Yard sales are a great source for the old wavy glass, and it looks so much better than a new, flat piece in a multipane window of old.
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Best to remove all of the old glazing, which, as Duderino pointed out, will result in some broken panes.
With the old glazing being hard as a rock and difficult to remove with a putty knife, I like to use an angle grinder fitted with 24 grit discs. It makes fast work of the removal, provided you've got a steady hand and don't dip into the wood.

I might use 24 to take most of it away and finish it up with 50.

The entire process is much faster with the grinder.

Of course, you can't go all the way to the corners................
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With the old glazing being hard as a rock and difficult to remove with a putty knife, I like to use an angle grinder fitted with 24 grit discs. It makes fast work of the removal, provided you've got a steady hand and don't dip into the wood.

I might use 24 to take most of it away and finish it up with 50.

The entire process is much faster with the grinder.

Of course, you can't go all the way to the corners................
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Used to do it all the time in the old home land, can't remember it as a hard job if you have the right tools.
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