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Old 06-04-2012, 11:43 AM
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NY governor wants to decriminalize pot possession in open view

Good. As it stands right now, pot possession under 25g is a violation, whereas publicly "displaying" the same amount of mj is arrestable. So the NYPD forces people to empty their pockets during stop-and-frisks, and then arrests them for "displaying" a joint.

Cuomo is hoping to cut down on this abuse by changing public display to a violation. Should be amusing to read the comments of certain cop-hugging bridge-and-tunnelers on this thread

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/04/nyregion/cuomo-seeks-cut-in-stop-and-frisk-arrests.html

I'm normally for local autonomy, but if the state slaps NYC and the NYPD down, this will be a good thing.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:28 PM
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Look outside the window, there's a woman being grabbed

They've dragged her to the bushes and now she's being stabbed

Maybe we should call the cops and try to stop the pain

But monopoly is so much fun, i'd hate to blow the game

And i'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody

Outside of a small circle of friends.

Riding down the highway, yes, my back is getting stiff
Thirteen cars are piled up, they're hanging on a cliff.
Maybe we should pull them back with our towing chain
But we gotta move and we might get sued and it looks like it's gonna rain
And i'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends.

Sweating in the ghetto with the colored and the poor
The rats have joined the babies who are sleeping on the floor
Now wouldn't it be a riot if they really blew their tops?
But they got too much already and besides we got the cops
And i'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends.

Oh there's a dirty paper using sex to make a sale
The supreme court was so upset, they sent him off to jail.



Maybe we should help the fiend and take away his fine.
But we're busy reading playboy and the sunday new york times
And i'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends

Smoking marihuana is more fun than drinking beer,
But a friend of ours was captured and they gave him thirty years
Maybe we should raise our voices, ask somebody why
But demonstrations are a drag, besides we're much too high
And i'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:24 AM
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Well I have no issue with the decriminalization of weed. But it is not the Mayor's proposal it is the Gov. Cuomo's proposal. (I know you hate Bloomie but please get it right, SPD!)

The problem is , first they outlaw fatty foods, then huge sodas and now a joint or three is legal...but

WADDA WE GONNA DO WHEN WE GET THWE MUNCHIES?????

There is NO good Munchy food available in NYC!!!
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:31 AM
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Well I have no issue with the decriminalization of weed. But it is not the Mayor's proposal it is the Gov. Cuomo's proposal. (I know you hate Bloomie but please get it right, SPD!)

The problem is , first they outlaw fatty foods, then huge sodas and now a joint or three is legal...but

WADDA WE GONNA DO WHEN WE GET THWE MUNCHIES?????

There is NO good Munchy food available in NYC!!!



Catch 22!


Isn't it crazy that these dictators want to ban what is legal and legalize what is ILLEGAL?

Of course, there's a lot more money involved with illegal drugs than with a Big Gulp! That's often the key to these things, following the money!
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:37 AM
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No it all has to do with generating income for the state and city. Instead of a procedure that results in a dismissal or probation and no income to the city/state, we have a simple ticket with a $100 fine that 90% of the recipients will pay so they don't have a record.

Same with sugary soda and fatty foods. the seller gets a fine and has to pay which generates income for the city.

In the past 3 years the Traffic Cops have gone rampant with tickets for ANYTHING. knowing 70% of the people will not fight it and just pay up, guilty or not.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:51 AM
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No it all has to do with generating income for the state and city. Instead of a procedure that results in a dismissal or probation and no income to the city/state, we have a simple ticket with a $100 fine that 90% of the recipients will pay so they don't have a record.
Better for the city, better for the people since they don`t get a record. Seems like everyone wins.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:13 AM
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Catch 22!


Isn't it crazy that these dictators want to ban what is legal and legalize what is ILLEGAL?

Of course, there's a lot more money involved with illegal drugs than with a Big Gulp! That's often the key to these things, following the money!
You are missing the point. The US government wastes millions of dollars trying to stamp out weed usage and maintain its illegality, when anyone in the country can find marijuana in about 20 minutes on a college campus or by driving around on a saturday afternoon in suburbia sniffing for that tell tale weed odor.

Its a completely ridiculous waste of government money, and marijuana should be legal. Prohibition didn't work, and the war on weed doesn't work either. Makes far more sense to concentrate on drugs that have negative effect other than making you lazy and hungry. IMO booze is far more destructive yet its legal.

Think of the economic boom that would take place if you could buy weed in any smoke shop and pay tax on it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:55 AM
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You are missing the point. The US government wastes millions of dollars trying to stamp out weed usage and maintain its illegality, when anyone in the country can find marijuana in about 20 minutes on a college campus or by driving around on a saturday afternoon in suburbia sniffing for that tell tale weed odor.

Its a completely ridiculous waste of government money, and marijuana should be legal. Prohibition didn't work, and the war on weed doesn't work either. Makes far more sense to concentrate on drugs that have negative effect other than making you lazy and hungry. IMO booze is far more destructive yet its legal.

Think of the economic boom that would take place if you could buy weed in any smoke shop and pay tax on it.


Hmmm.... it appears that maybe I just learned something about you.

So since prohibition didn't work and we have some high number of alcoholics, that this justifies adding to that a bunch of pot heads with the munchies? Interesting logic.
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Well I have no issue with the decriminalization of weed. But it is not the Mayor's proposal it is the Gov. Cuomo's proposal. (I know you hate Bloomie but please get it right, SPD!)
Re-read my original post, please. I did mention the governor, not Bloomberg. As to Bloomberg, I don`t hate him -- just think he jumped the shark (repeatedly) in his third term.

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WADDA WE GONNA DO WHEN WE GET THWE MUNCHIES?????

There is NO good Munchy food available in NYC!!!
Bwahahahaha, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!
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Great point Stoney! As I indicated, follow the money. Thanks for doing the following!
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time to end the war on weed.....
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:13 AM
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Legalize them all, not just la mota. I find it interesting that the conservatives who tremble in fear of the scary "nanny state" do a complete 180 when it comes to the government allowing adults to do what they want with their own bodies and minds.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:38 PM
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weed is SO much less harmful than booze. legalize it....
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:05 PM
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It's a HUGE part of the decadance of our country. People dumbed down by any substance are often less than productive citizens. If they are productive they could be MORE productive without substances. Their morales go down the tube. Their alertness goes down the tube. And their brain gets fried by substances over time.

They don't call the stuff DOPE for nothing.
Tell that to all the professional white collar coke heads. From a neoliberal perspective, they are perfect citizens.
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Tell that to all the professional white collar coke heads. From a neoliberal perspective, they are perfect citizens.

NOT AT ALL. They are the same kind of slime balls, just a different substance.
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