Milking the system

[Botnst]

Cattle Milked At Least 7,000 Years Ago
June 21, 2012 By Nathan 1 Comment

The first definitive evidence that cattle were used for their milk, by humans, in prehistoric Saharan Africa nearly 7,000 years ago is the focus of a study just published in the journal Nature.

The research was done by an international group of scientists, led by researchers from the University of Bristol in the United Kingdom and including Kathleen Ryan of the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology.

The research was done by analyzing fatty acids that were extracted from unglazed pottery excavated from an archaeological site in Libya. The researchers found that dairy fats had been processed in the pottery vessels. This is the first definite identification of dairying practices in the African continent, by prehistoric Saharan herders. It can be very accurately dated to the fifth millennium B.C.E.

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“While the remarkable rock art of Saharan Africa contains many representations of cattle – including, in a few cases, depictions of the actual milking of a cow – it can rarely be reliably dated,” Evershed said. “Also, the scarcity of cattle bones in archaeological sites makes it impossible to ascertain herd structures, thereby preventing interpretations of whether dairying was practiced.

“Molecular and isotopic analysis of absorbed food residues in pottery, however, is an excellent way to investigate the diet and subsistence practice of early peoples. It’s an approach my colleagues and I have previously applied to successfully determine the chronology of dairying, beginning in the Fertile Crescent of the Near East and spreading across Europe.”

Source: Planetsave (Cattle Milked At Least 7,000 Years Ago | Planetsave)

[E150GT]

Milk is for baby cows..

[Dee8go]

I was just trying to remember how old the dietary laws in the Bible were that warned against cooking meat in milk. Not 5000 years old maybe, but maybe two or three thousand.

[E150GT]

who cooks meat in milk?

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by E150GT

who cooks meat in milk?

Canaanites. And look what happened to them! Auto-smite!

[strelnik]

Originally Posted by E150GT

who cooks meat in milk?

People used to cook calf's liver in milk in Slavic countries in the 1800-1900s.

If I remember correctly, the prohibition is the mixing of meat and milk dishes because meat can be often cooked to the point where it cannot contain live germs, but people didn't have pasteurization, hence the prohibition on meat and milk together. That's why the Jewish believers who follow their dietary laws keep meat and milk dishes separate, I believe.

That's also why you can't buy a cheeseburger in modern-day Israel!

[Zulfiqar]

Originally Posted by E150GT

who cooks meat in milk?

The whole of meat eating India and its surrounding countries eat meat dishes cooked with yoghurt. Hasnt hurt them..

cook in raw milk - no way..

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by Zulfiqar

The whole of meat eating India and its surrounding countries eat meat dishes cooked with yoghurt. Hasnt hurt them..

cook in raw milk - no way..

They're all going to hell for that.

[TwitchKitty]

Chowda is good, milk, clams and potatoes. There is, however, in fact, a special place in hell for people who propagate invasive species.

Milk is a body fluid. Feeding body fluids to kids would be a crime if it wasn't so profitable. Cow milk is not recommended for children under the age of one year old, anyway.

Your body doesn't have the rennin to break down the casein in milk or the lactase to break down the lactose in milk.

Heavy whipping cream is the best. Goat milk is good too.

[Zulfiqar]

Originally Posted by Botnst

They're all going to hell for that.

why??

anyway - milk from USA cows pretty much is not worth it IMO, Where I grew up you get buffalo milk only - cow milk was for sissies.

[kerry]

Originally Posted by Dee8go

I was just trying to remember how old the dietary laws in the Bible were that warned against cooking meat in milk. Not 5000 years old maybe, but maybe two or three thousand.

700 bce maybe in their written form.

I don't think anyone has a clue as to why the prohibition exists. Lactose intolerant beef eating priest, inserted it into the text?

[elchivito]

You can buy a cheeseburger in Israel. I've read several articles about this. McD's has some restaurants there that keep kosher and others that don't.

Cattle are johnny come latelys. Iranian archaeological evidence has goats domesticated as early as 10K BP. Not that I have anything against dairy cows. Nothing like a big cold glass of 5% butterfat, unhomogenized and unpasteurized Guernsey or Jersey milk.
Hey E150GT, a question: do you eat eggs?

[t walgamuth]

Corn in addition to being a plant native to the Americas was first domesticated at least 7000 years ago.

[elchivito]

Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Corn in addition to being a plant native to the Americas was first domesticated at least 7000 years ago.

Probably earlier.

Ancient Popcorn Found

This revelation has prompted investigations into the cost of streaming movies in neolithic Peru.

[tonkovich]

Originally Posted by elchivito

You can buy a cheeseburger in Israel. I've read several articles about this. McD's has some restaurants there that keep kosher and others that don't.

Cattle are johnny come latelys. Iranian archaeological evidence has goats domesticated as early as 10K BP. Not that I have anything against dairy cows. Nothing like a big cold glass of 5% butterfat, unhomogenized and unpasteurized Guernsey or Jersey milk.
Hey E150GT, a question: do you eat eggs?

there's a school of thought - not totally recognized by the medical/research community, for whatever reason? - that goats' milk is healthier, and that there may be a link between cow milk and diabetes? especially type I / early onset? perhaps a certain intolerance to certain fats and sugars and proteins in cow milk? one can be certain that the dairy lobby in the u.s. certainly isn't sponsoring research into this field.