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Old 06-30-2012, 01:03 PM
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Not surprisingly, the population and climate change graphs show some correlation.

That said, mankind's efforts to avert climate change are likely going to be insufficient if the population continues to grow. Too little, too late.

In nature, when a population of species exceeds the capacity of the environment, a massive die-off follows. Then perhaps a race of sentient cockroaches will take over.
Perhaps so but have we ruled out everything else?

Then we'd have to figure a way to lower the population. Now the question is how? Spike the global water supply with contraceptives? Again, we don't know if it can even work.

So on that track, is there a way to actually know what the capacity of the environment is? Without knowing what it is first, it is going to be difficult to figure anything out. I remember a documentary telling us about how they predicted oil would run out before they sunk the first well. Without knowing how much oil there really is, you cannot predict when it runs out. Same here.

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Climate schmimate. The storms happen all the time. Fires are man made, firefighters reminding us "why we need them". Usually, they all get so out of hand in the first place because some yuppie climate alarmist *****es about water usage and these people aren't hosing their houses down.
OK, now we've identified the source of the problem - it's greenies who don't hose down their house as a fire approaches.

Brilliant.

I have a lousy feeling that what we're seeing is the gradual transformation of previously forested land into something between forest and desert, as forests that find themselves in desert like conditions are ill prepared to not burn. No idea how far it will reach and how it will shake out. Stand by.
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OK, now we've identified the source of the problem - it's greenies who don't hose down their house as a fire approaches.

Brilliant.

I have a lousy feeling that what we're seeing is the gradual transformation of previously forested land into something between forest and desert, as forests that find themselves in desert like conditions are ill prepared to not burn. No idea how far it will reach and how it will shake out. Stand by.
Actually, the real problem is that fat strawman you just put out there. Mad fire hazard, son.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:52 PM
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I figured that mother nature had declared "War on PPL" is the reason for all the stuff going on.

I still think the native American Indians had the right idea in regards to how they lived/survived.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:57 PM
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I still think the native American Indians had the right idea in regards to how they lived/survived.
Would you like to live like they did? Without all the nice stuff of modern day living? It is easy to talk about living like they did before but life was pretty harsh back then too. I know what happened to me when I broke my fibula. Would you rather have what happened to me or what happened to them?
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Perfectly normal in northern Nevada. Warm but not really hot, just like it's supposed to be this time of year. However it did rain a few drops this month. Usually it quits raining in May and doesn't start again until about October.
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Weather & climate being mixed up again!!!
just because we move from winter to summer, we are not seeing global warming.
A hot day or a fire does not make global warming !!
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:40 PM
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Between the East Coast (VA/MD/OH) storms last night, bushfires in CO, the obscene heat in a lot of the US, does anyone have any doubt anymore that SOMETHING is going on with our climate? Hey, maybe it's a good thing. The more people get pimp slapped into thinking about climate, the more support there will be for change to alternative energy that doesn't **** Gaia.
3 people dead and thousands, many elderly and small children, without power in a heat wave - and you're calling that a good thing and gloating about them getting "pimp slapped"?

Here's an idea - why don't you go pimp slap yourself in the crotch and see how THAT feels.

Your claiming these storms and heat wave as absolute proof of man-made climate change, is no different than the idiots looking out their windows at a January blizzard and claiming that as absolute denial of it.
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Actually, the real problem is that fat strawman you just put out there. Mad fire hazard, son.
Don't let me bother you. I think there's a re-run of 'Ozzie and Harriet' on the tube right now.

S'funny almost, the way the deniers smirk that one degree higher might be sorta nice, bit warmer in the evening. What it actually means is a shift in landscape and ground cover. If higher summertime highs and subsequent less precip were to become common and widespread (don't look now) there will be reduction in forest cover. Already in progress - witness all the beetle killed trees. Often doesn't get cold enough to kill off beetles the way it use to. So they have a field day, multiplying and replenishing the earth.
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3 people dead and thousands, many elderly and small children, without power in a heat wave - and you're calling that a good thing and gloating about them getting "pimp slapped"?

Here's an idea - why don't you go pimp slap yourself in the crotch and see how THAT feels.

Your claiming these storms and heat wave as absolute proof of man-made climate change, is no different than the idiots looking out their windows at a January blizzard and claiming that as absolute denial of it.
The people without power included my family, tgherwterbrth453rgefrtgefntyrewfbrth3grbrt3g. No: I claim that the weirdness of the past DECADE is pretty darn convincing proof, and the last week is just an example of that weirdness.

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Way to talk make light of a real issue. Are you actually that stupid, or do you just play a moron on the Internet?
Well, it's obvious you haven't tried or you wouldn't be making snooty, uneducated comebacks.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:53 PM
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The confluence of bad building/zoning rules, stupid homeowners and a faith-based belief that weather will always be how it was results in homeowners building in the chaparral, floodplains, barrier islands, and the mountainous west. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
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This is still no excuse for humans WORSENING climate change by their activities.

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