They don't serve our needs. We serve their needs, and they have too strong of a lobby for anything else to happen.

PS - at least we treated Jonathan Pollard right. Hope the man dies alone in prison.

You do realize that even a few years ago, they were trying to wean themselves from our money for a reason, right?

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And how would killing Arafat advance Russia's interest, exactly?

Nope. That was dioxin.

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Arafat dead?

When did this happen?

Why am I always the last to know about this things?

Oh the catastrophy!

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Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

Real easy, if he wasn't playing ball as Russia wanted.
Arafat was in the way. If I remember he was a major obstacle to the peace process. With him out of the way Russia could broker a deal and gain global stature in the peace process instead of the US.

What do you think?

I'm really at ease knowing that the Arabs in the area want peace with Israel, and won't bring them harm...

I know you haven't been part of your new religion long enough to be this completely poisoned in the head...

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And you don't think that the Israelis wish the Arabs harm? Why favor them -- because some fundie preacher told you so?

Maybe so. Maybe Russia thought they could play a role in the Levant by undermining the PLO and supporting his opposition. Looks like it blew-up in their faces as the folks who took over are run out of Damascus and Tehran, not Moscow.

What would Israel stand to gain with a dead Arafat? Arafat was the only thing holding the violently militant, Shiite Islamists in check. If anything, Israel had an interest in keeping the PLO in power and the PLO was Arafat. Anybody could tell the PLO would dissolve into factions without Arafat.

I'm betting Iran-Syria. Iran has reactors and could make Polonium. It only takes 50 nanograms to poison somebody.

The Iranians are Arab...when did this happen?


When logic fails..trot out the religion card...nice.

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So who is the Wizard of Oz in Tehran and Damascus?

Iran has reactors they got from US?

Doesn't look like he made any mention or reference to the Persian Islamists, do you see where he did?

Interesting how assassination is in the arsenal of the usual suspects, but they prefer to demonise leaders, destroy whole countries and economy's, murder and terrorise men, women and children and vandalise whole ecosystems, rather than simply remove the alledged dictator that was the justification for their slaughter-viz-Libya and Iraq.
As a would-be Colonial Power-Washington sucks. They dont seem to understand that you have to leave something to exploit, people to slave for you, and places to send your obnoxious sons.
Whats the point of the destruction they cause wherever they interfere-except to make everyone else in the world fear them.
They make Vogon Constructor Fleets look civilised.

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My guess would be that if he were murdered it would either have been to make way for an Anti-Hamas candidate such as Arafats successor who refused to recognise Hamas's subsequent election victory and relinquish power; or someone who didnt want a Peace Agreement to be concluded (the Americans?). Perhaps thats why a certain Israelli Prime Minister was also assassinated.

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So you can't or won't admit that your quip about Iranian vs. Arabs was divorced from reality and then you felt an uncontrollable urge to spew some screed about the imagined evils of US imperialism compared to imaginary civilization?

This stuff is really getting to you, huh? Don't have your misbaha or they're not working for you?

Hell, it's still Fourth of July here, maybe you've got or can get some of those little American flags and burn them dancing around in a circle screaming Allahu akbar! Maybe some little US soldier, Bush or Obama dolls to burn in effigy would lift your spirits? I don't "know" for certain, and it's probably another Zionist controlled medis lie; but, it seems seems a pretty popular therapy to anyone who watches any Al Jezeera TV?