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jplinville · #1 07-13-2012, 09:33 AM

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aklim · #2 07-13-2012, 10:33 AM

Why must they be? Should we re-invent the wheel or just buy their wheel?

jplinville · #3 07-13-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Why must they be? Should we re-invent the wheel or just buy their wheel?

Considering the fact that we have a high unemployment rate, they should have been made by our people. The technology isn't difficult, we've built these things before.

If it's purchased by the DoD, why wouldn't you want American made?

Benz Fan · #4 07-13-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

Considering the fact that we have a high unemployment rate, they should have been made by our people. The technology isn't difficult, we've built these things before.

If it's purchased by the DoD, why wouldn't you want American made?

Development, testing, tooling, etc. While the technology may not be difficult, you can't decide that you want to build them today, and have them come off the assembly line tomorrow. Look at the bright side - at least we didn't buy them from Ralph Lauren.

MTI · #5 07-13-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

Considering the fact that we have a high unemployment rate, they should have been made by our people. The technology isn't difficult, we've built these things before.

If it's purchased by the DoD, why wouldn't you want American made?

Yes, there are many unemployed in the US, however isn't there a shortage of qualified workers? I understand that if you have the skills to run a CNC, you can write your own ticket.

The high unemployment rate, if you take a look at the details, consists of many sectors outside of manufacturing. For instance, unemployment among teens and young adults isn't 8.2%, it's more like 20%. Then there's the high rate among former public sector workers.

aklim · #6 07-13-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

Considering the fact that we have a high unemployment rate, they should have been made by our people. The technology isn't difficult, we've built these things before.

If it's purchased by the DoD, why wouldn't you want American made?

I would want it American made IF POSSIBLE. That said, if someone else bids it cheaper and they can produce the specs I want, what is it you expect me to do? Buy American even when it costs more for the same thing?

aklim · #7 07-13-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Benz Fan

Development, testing, tooling, etc. While the technology may not be difficult, you can't decide that you want to build them today, and have them come off the assembly line tomorrow. Look at the bright side - at least we didn't buy them from Ralph Lauren.

Unless there is some sensitive technology involved, I don't really see the difference where we buy it from. If all things are equal, I'd buy American and I'd want the DOD or whatever govt agency to at least give them a chance. OTOH, if we cannot produce it as cheaply, I am against the "Buy American at all costs" philosophy.

aklim · #8 07-13-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Yes, there are many unemployed in the US, however isn't there a shortage of qualified workers? I understand that if you have the skills to run a CNC, you can write your own ticket.

The high unemployment rate, if you take a look at the details, consists of many sectors outside of manufacturing. For instance, unemployment among teens and young adults isn't 8.2%, it's more like 20%. Then there's the high rate among former public sector workers.

Those are all irrelevant, IMO. We cannot simply buy from an American firm because it is an American firm. We have to see what their pricing is unless we simply want to subsidize Lockheed, Boeing, etc, etc. Barring some ultra sensitive technology which I suspect this is not.

HuskyMan · #9 07-13-2012, 02:37 PM

for the same reason the so-called "North American Union" is now emblazoned across the back of the North Carolina Drivers License.

Welcome to Bush's New World Order AKA NAFTA AKA the foreigners are buying us up like pieces on a monopoly board. We are idiots.

jplinville · #10 07-13-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Unless there is some sensitive technology involved, I don't really see the difference where we buy it from. If all things are equal, I'd buy American and I'd want the DOD or whatever govt agency to at least give them a chance. OTOH, if we cannot produce it as cheaply, I am against the "Buy American at all costs" philosophy.

I know of 4 companies, 2 west and 2 east of the Mississippi, that already have the technology, means, tooling and proven prototypes in place. Price may have been a factor, as Germany has been producing them longer, but we already had everything in place, just waiting on an order.

At $100k per unit, I know we could have produced them at that, or lower in cost.

Dudesky · #11 07-13-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

for the same reason the so-called "North American Union" is now emblazoned across the back of the North Carolina Drivers License.

Welcome to Bush's New World Order AKA NAFTA AKA the foreigners are buying us up like pieces on a monopoly board. We are idiots.

Just for giggles I was looking at various states and they are all offering 'enhanced driver licenses' for slightly more than the regular one.Said would have RFID and/or facial recog technology...

And what I saw was most had the NAU globe on them. Mexico is big on this for guess what?

VOTING ID

Stoney · #12 07-13-2012, 04:21 PM

Plausable Deniability

"No, that wasn't our sub/drone. Had to be someone else's property."

Ara T. · #13 07-13-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

for the same reason the so-called "North American Union" is now emblazoned across the back of the North Carolina Drivers License.

Welcome to Bush's New World Order AKA NAFTA AKA the foreigners are buying us up like pieces on a monopoly board. We are idiots.

more like.. welcome to capitalism.