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Old 07-20-2012, 12:26 PM
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Dark, disturbed people we have always had with us.

Disarming law-abiding, undisturbed citizens won't change that.

Horror and mayhem can always find an outlet. Did McVeigh need a gun? Perhaps we should outlaw fertilizer?

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James Holmes, the suspect arrested in connection with the mass shootings at a screening of the new Batman movie early this morning in Aurora, CO, could be a registered Democrat, according to documents obtained by Breitbart News. Earlier, ABC News' Brian Ross and George Stephanopoulos speculated on Good Morning America that Holmes was a Tea Party member, based solely on a name appearing on a Tea Party website.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:40 PM
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I have family there so was relieved they are OK.

Regarding carrying guns. The guy was wearing a vest. If you as a good Samaritan fired at him, the perp would have returned fire, killing you and possibly people around you.
That's what headshots are for, truly.....
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:42 PM
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A crazy nut kills twelve, wounds fifthly and this is your reaction... hilarious you can't make this ***** up.
absolutely.... you have a problem with this? what's your take, confiscate all weapons because somebody nuts out?
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I have family there so was relieved they are OK.

Regarding carrying guns. The guy was wearing a vest. If you as a good Samaritan fired at him, the perp would have returned fire, killing you and possibly people around you.



Can you say HEAD SHOT?

IF I'm there and armed and have a clear shot, I would HOPE that I would have the character to do my best to take him out. Everyone in there, including myself, is ALREADY in jeopardy. If you want to cry and try to hide under a chair, go for it. I would rather do what I could to take care of the situation.

That said, we NEVER know how we will react in a situation until ACTUALLY confronted with the situation, but I would hope that I would have the character to try to take care of it.
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Yeah. A guy wearing body armor and a helmet drops CS in a darkened theater and starts auto-firing with an AK. He is taken down by some citizens with their .380s. Uh huh.

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entirely possible, given a situation like that, which is much like combat. lots of people with rifles have died at the hands of pistol wielders. The odds are reduced, but it beats dieing on your knees.....
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Hmmm..... Is it POSSIBLE that there could be more than one James Holmes in the USA?
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THIS is what the Second Amendment is for, and is is unalienable, period.

The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed—where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

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this kind of thing is happening more often it seems. I predict that people will take to staying off the streets and staying home more as a result. Where does that leave bricks and mortar businesses?
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Speculation in both directions - yeah, that's useful.

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David,

To your list of weopons, I believe that any citizen who is not a convicted felon or identified as mentally ill should have the right to keep an M1 tank or an F22 Strike Fighter and all necessary ammunition in their back yard if they want to.
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So now you need the right range, vantage point, vision, and skills. I'm not taking away from your sharp-shooting prowess and clarity of thought under duress. More than likely if I were in such a situation it would be with my family, and I'm not sure if my actions would put them in less or more danger. You only get 1 shot.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:55 PM
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I have family there so was relieved they are OK.

Regarding carrying guns. The guy was wearing a vest. If you as a good Samaritan fired at him, the perp would have returned fire, killing you and possibly people around you.
And if I didnt fire at him, he would not still return fire, killing me and possibly people around me?
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:55 PM
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Horror and mayhem can always find an outlet. Did McVeigh need a gun? Perhaps we should outlaw fertilizer?
In a manner of speaking, that's what the government has done in response to the Oklahoma City bombing.

Homeland Security to Regulate Ammonium Nitrate

Also, industry is working to make nitrogen-based fertilizers less useful as oxidizer for explosives:

New Process Eliminates a Fertilizer’s Blast Threat
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:02 PM
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Hmmm..... Is it POSSIBLE that there could be more than one James Holmes in the USA?
Actually, given the uber-gooberness of the paparazzi, I'm waiting for them to ask Katie Holmes about her brother...

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