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Old 07-26-2012, 07:50 PM
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Sounds like a documentary to me ... I like it.
My guess is it's probably already on YouTube.

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Old 07-26-2012, 08:01 PM
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I give you credit ....

You turned the Barry Soetoro topic into a conspiracy spun up and agaqinst B.O. initiated by the anti-B.O. crowd. A+ for spin. Looks like an incredible fraud accross the board OR, as I said, too many "red flags".
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:39 PM
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I give you credit ....

You turned the Barry Soetoro topic into a conspiracy spun up and agaqinst B.O. initiated by the anti-B.O. crowd. A+ for spin. Looks like an incredible fraud accross the board OR, as I said, too many "red flags".
Well the only people who really use that name in conversation are birthers, who don't exactly have a reputation for lucidity. IMO it's about the same as calling BO Barack Hussein Obama in conversation, only to emphasize that his middle name is the last name of a former infamous dictator.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:41 PM
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So, are you suggesting that by definition only "birthers" or those who's butter slipped off the noodle so to speak are the only ones who make or could make a serious inquiry into the issue ? If so, that is very telling -- by definition.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:44 PM
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So, are you suggesting that by definition only "birthers" or those who's butter slipped off the noodle so to speak are the only ones who make or could make a serious inquiry into the issue ? If so, that is very telling -- by definition.
Pretty much. Since the world has had over four years to scope this "story" out and possibly break the biggest story of all time . . .
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:45 PM
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So, are you suggesting that by definition only "birthers" or those who's butter slipped off the noodle so to speak are the only ones who make or could make a serious inquiry into the issue ? If so, that is very telling -- by definition.
Sort of. Do you consider the birthers to be the crowd whose butter slipped off the plate? Its all part of the same conspiracy theory. Btw I don't mean to be criticizing here, I'm just pointing out the association.
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No, I used "or" instead of "and". I have a hard time believing ALL "birthers" are cooks.
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Have to love the OP's feigned dismay of being lumped with "the Birthers" . . . but has nothing to say to distinguish his newly found curiosity from that very group. Is there a sub-category of these folks who are "Birthers-Lite" who espouse "Yeah, I know it's crazy, but what if . . ." as their mantra?
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However, labeling them as such is an effective, but superficial, means to discount what they have to say. Maybe the birthers are right and B.O. really did spend a bundle to create a highle effective P.R. campaign to discount them and cast them in bad light.
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Maybe the birthers are right and B.O. really did spend a bundle to create a highle effective P.R. campaign to discount them and cast them in bad light.
Yep.

Embrace the power of the conspiracy theorist, go with your feelings, you know you want to . . you know there has to be something . . .
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:57 PM
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No, I used "or" instead of "and". I have a hard time believing ALL "birthers" are cooks.
Ok - good to know. I think that it was something worth looking into at one point given the ambiguity of his background, but has been disproven over and over again. The ones who still remain clinging to the notion that all of Obama's policies are going to be magically revoked by way of citizenship and the likes are grasping for straws. If it turns out that he's born in Kenya I'll be the first to admit I was wrong and overly critical but until then, the evidence IMO is stacked against it.
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Have to love the OP's feigned dismay of being lumped with "the Birthers" . . . but has nothing to say to distinguish his newly found curiosity from that very group. Is there a sub-category of these folks who are "Birthers-Lite" who espouse "Yeah, I know it's crazy, but what if . . ." as their mantra?
I am not a "birther" and I am not dismayed. I can say that B.O. waited an incredibly long time to "disclose" his birth certificate. You would think he would be proud to be an American and display his "proof" with pride. And yes, I am very curious about this topic now. I know B.O.'s spouse was not proud of America -- until America made her hubby POTUS. So maybe that explains the delay. And, B.O.'s mentor and preacher thought it OK to pray to his god to "damm America". And yes, those are facts and not "Birther's" hysteria. These are their words. And yes, the "Birthers" need to thank the US Government for laying the foundation and doing all the work for them since that is B.O.'s philosophy; that is, someone else is to thank. I guess the world will never know to a 100% certainity if B.O. is really Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:07 PM
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And, B.O.'s mentor and preacher thought it OK to pray to his god to "damm America". .
As opposed to right wing preachers like Falwell and Robertson who never have God damning America.
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Watch it. The race card is next.

He's our first mixed race President......now how the hell can one use the race card?
Looks like equal race representation to me.

The Soetoro thing, thought when he come outa Indonesia he went with Dad's nom deplume.

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